Re: [CR]Newbee Fork Question, also talk about old bikes, Now: Dropouts

(Example: Framebuilding:Restoration)

Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Newbee Fork Question, also talk about old bikes, Now: Dropouts
To: Daniel Artley <dartley@co.ba.md.us>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <s44f80b8.076@inetgw.co.ba.md.us>


Mea Culpa. I responded previously without looking at the photo. Those are not Simplex dropouts. They are the distinctive "honeycomb" DOs which I once thought were Huret, but as someone, Chuck I think, corrected me in a thread last year, are in fact Gitane's own dropouts. They are notched like Huret (or Campy). I have those DOs on two Gitanes, and early 70's Tour de France and a mid 70's which may be an Interclub. So the frame in the photo is almost undoubtedly a Gitane, probably a TdF or Interclub. I thought those DOs were threaded, although I'd have to check one of mine to be certain. If so, almost any rear derailleur will work. If not, Simplex will work - it doesn't need the notch, but will not have a problem with it. Since the frame doesn't have a fork now, it might be simpler to use an English-threaded replacement fork so you don't need a French headset.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

ley <dartley@co.ba.md.us> wrote: Welcome to the list Ty. Its a good thing you joined. I'm not sure that's a Gitane you've bought. All this talk of non threaded Simplex dropouts don't match the link shown. It's supposed to be a Gitane, and I know I've seen those dropouts once before, but they aren't the Simplex dropouts we're all used to seeing on Gitanes and Peugeots. They're notched like a Campy and have a number of lightening cutouts in them and vertical. Can't tell from the pics, but the hanger might be threaded. Can the cognoscenti have a look at this? It may not even be a French frame for all I can tell, lugs don't look like any Gitane's I've worked on, and its a repaint, no decals.

Regards,

Dan Artley

Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendez vous.10604.1458.eml From: "Ty Rilleau" Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:27:30 -0400 Subject: [CR]Newbee Fork Question, also talk about old bikes

Hi everybody. My name is Ty Rilleau and I love the classics. I am a third generation leather worker and have a solid appreciation for function and form, not necessarily in that order. I saw this Gitane frame on The Ebay and had to snatch it up. Primarily for the rear dropouts. My primary question is how I would find a suitable fork (60 cm frame). I don't care about anything but function, as price is starting to factor in. My second question is have I gotten over my head in terms of compatibility. Does anybody have any info on how to get a good bb, or the headset threading, or the (fill in the blank). I would love any info on the frame too. You help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ty

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