Re: [CR]Oversize tubing - who did it?

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot)

In-Reply-To: <C09D098B.5AA44%hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 15:09:37 -0400
To: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>, Jan Heine <heine93@earthlink.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
From: "Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Oversize tubing - who did it?


Hilary Stone wrote:
>
> Frame tubing diameters were pretty much standardised in Britain before
>WWI with 1in TT and 1 1/8in ST and DTs. After WWI Chater-Lea introduced (i
>think 1922) a lugset to build frames with a 7/8in TT and 1in DT and ST.
>Brampton followed suit soon afterwards. CL also supplied tubing to suit - I
>can look up the wall thicknesses if anyone is interested. These never proved
>very popular judging by the number of surviving bikes with 7/8in and 1in
>tubing ... unless they were a lot less reliable. By 1938 sets of tubing in
>this size combination were no longer available - in reality I think the idea
>had died a death by 1930.

Those thinner dimensions were the norm in the U.S., also from before WWI, generally with one-piece "Ashtabula" type bottom brackets.

That's what my 1916 Mead Ranger used (internally lugged/crucible brazed) though I believe most U.S. frames with these tubing diameters were welded construction.

The smaller diameter corresponded with thicker walls, for greater weldability.

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