This auction flies against how most of us would market an item for sale.
However as Chuck states below; it could be a real deal for the person willing to do proper due diligence and protect themselves from misrepresentation or fraud by the seller.
Personally I think it is plausible that the item is for real, and if I had a serious interest; would be collecting information that would make me feel comfortable about closing the deal or not.
This one requires a bit more effort than gawking at high resolution pixs and placing a bid on a snipe program.
Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Ga
-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Jul 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>
>Sometimes (often?) something wonderful happens when a guy puts up a
>poorly crafted auction.
>
>The CR membership's reaction is, "Hummm, something hinky is going on
>here! Not interested!" But the guy who really wants a Confente
>goes, "I guess I just need to make an extra effort and find out what
>this guy's got." Often it results in getting something for a bargain
>in the end. Over the past 30 plus years I've collected some amazing
>stories to go with my bargains.
>
>Poorly crafted auctions scare off the dilettantes.
>
>Chuck Schmidt
>South Pasadena, Southern California
>
>
>David Toppin wrote:
>
>> Well, the lack of pictures certainly would make me question it!
>>
>>
>> David Toppin
>> dave@pelletizer.com
>> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable inventory.
>>
>> The Pelletizer Group, Inc.
>> 4 LaChance Street
>> Gardner, MA 01440-2476
>>
>> (978) 669-0060
>> (978) 669-0061 fax
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
>> Schmidt
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:42 PM
>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS
>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>
>> Not the point actually. Of course everything can be done better
>> with very
>> little effort. But this thread started out with the assertion that
>> the
>> auction was questionable.
>>
>> Chuck Schmidt
>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>
>> David Toppin wrote:
>>
>>> But it wouldn't hurt, and probably the bike would bring more money
>>>
>>>
>>> David Toppin
>>> dave@pelletizer.com
>>> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable inventory.
>>>
>>> The Pelletizer Group, Inc.
>>> 4 LaChance Street
>>> Gardner, MA 01440-2476
>>>
>>> (978) 669-0060
>>> (978) 669-0061 fax
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
>>> Schmidt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:16 PM
>>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS
>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>>
>>> I don't remember ever hearing that selling a fairly rare and
>>> desirable
>>> bike required the seller to be polite...
>>>
>>> Chuck Schmidt
>>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Mike Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yo Chuck,
>>>>
>>>> The dude is a rude. I can corroborate Tom Sander's story of the
>>>> seller's
>>>> bedside manner. If you are going to sell a rare bike, a seller
>>>> should be
>>>> able to show photos, not illustrations, that represent its
>>>> condition.
>>>> So far, he illustrates his arrogance better than the bike.
>>>>
>>>> A brown Confente? Barf! Retch!, no wonder he does not want to show
>>>> photos.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Schmidt reporting live on a balmy July evening from..
>>>> South Stirling, Southern part of Northern NJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This whole thread is starting to make me laugh! I see no "RED
>>>>> FLAGS"
>>>>> with this auction whatsoever.
>>>>>
>>>>> The seller states:
>>>>> "...local pickup only (no shipping)." and "Cash only (no cashier
>>>>> checks) will be accepted on buyers approval of item. Wire money
>>>>> directly to my bank."
>>>>>
>>>>> If I was selling my Confente (two numbers before the frame being
>>>>> auctioned) I'd have the buyer (or his representative) look over the
>>>>> frame and then, upon their approval of the frame, give me the CASH.
>>>>> There's no way I'd pack up a frame worth $4500 plus and send it off
>>>>> with a shipper... no way. And yes, if a complete Confente went for
>>>>> $8,000 on eBay more than a few years ago (a CR member was the
>>>>> buyer), then the frame might actually be worth $4500... if you want
>>>>> to own a Confente that is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Time for the list to take their chill pill.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck Schmidt
>>>>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>>>>
>>>>> .