Re: Fw: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay

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From: <"brianbaylis@juno.com">
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:43:23 GMT
To: nickzz@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Nick and all,

I can tell everyone if the bike is real or not. It does exist; but it

was about 5 years ago that I saw the bike. Also 5 years ago that I

offered to touch it up to preserve the original decals, and so on. I

will not do the touch-up now. The bike was a "little rough" when I

saw it last.

I don't know this person, per se. He may or may not be a major

dufuss. I actually ran into him one day in a store as I was wearing a

Confente T-shirt. This dude remarks to me, upon noticing my

shirt, "Hey, I have one of those bicycles". We talk for a few

minites, I stopped by his house to look the bike over, and that was

the end of it. I made a note of the frame number, the persons name

and number, and the frame size. It's still stuck to my computer desk

right in front of me now. My note also states there is a small dent

in the down tube up near the shifter and that it's Brown Metallic in

color.

There you go. The bike is real. The owner, can't say for sure.

Brian Baylis La Mesa, CA Long blurb possibly comming tonite regarding life at Vintage Cycle

Studios/ Baylis Cycles. It's a real fun place!


-- Nick Zatezalo wrote:


This auction flies against how most of us would market an item for

sale.

However as Chuck states below; it could be a real deal for the person

willing to do proper due diligence and protect themselves from

misrepresentation or fraud by the seller.

Personally I think it is plausible that the item is for real, and if

I had a serious interest; would be collecting information that would make me feel

comfortable about closing the deal or not.

This one requires a bit more effort than gawking at high resolution

pixs and placing a bid on a snipe program.

Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Ga

-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Jul 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>
>Sometimes (often?) something wonderful happens when a guy puts up a
>poorly crafted auction.
>
>The CR membership's reaction is, "Hummm, something hinky is going

on
>here! Not interested!" But the guy who really wants a Confente
>goes, "I guess I just need to make an extra effort and find out

what
>this guy's got." Often it results in getting something for a

bargain
>in the end. Over the past 30 plus years I've collected some

amazing
>stories to go with my bargains.
>
>Poorly crafted auctions scare off the dilettantes.
>
>Chuck Schmidt
>South Pasadena, Southern California
>
>
>David Toppin wrote:
>
>> Well, the lack of pictures certainly would make me question it!
>>
>>
>> David Toppin
>> dave@pelletizer.com
>> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable

inventory.
>>
>> The Pelletizer Group, Inc.
>> 4 LaChance Street
>> Gardner, MA 01440-2476
>>
>> (978) 669-0060
>> (978) 669-0061 fax
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of

Chuck
>> Schmidt
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:42 PM
>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS
>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>
>> Not the point actually. Of course everything can be done better
>> with very
>> little effort. But this thread started out with the assertion

that
>> the
>> auction was questionable.
>>
>> Chuck Schmidt
>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>
>> David Toppin wrote:
>>
>>> But it wouldn't hurt, and probably the bike would bring more money
>>>
>>>
>>> David Toppin
>>> dave@pelletizer.com
>>> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable

inventory.
>>>
>>> The Pelletizer Group, Inc.
>>> 4 LaChance Street
>>> Gardner, MA 01440-2476
>>>
>>> (978) 669-0060
>>> (978) 669-0061 fax
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
>>> Schmidt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:16 PM
>>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS
>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>>
>>> I don't remember ever hearing that selling a fairly rare and
>>> desirable
>>> bike required the seller to be polite...
>>>
>>> Chuck Schmidt
>>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Mike Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yo Chuck,
>>>>
>>>> The dude is a rude. I can corroborate Tom Sander's story of the
>>>> seller's
>>>> bedside manner. If you are going to sell a rare bike, a seller
>>>> should be
>>>> able to show photos, not illustrations, that represent its
>>>> condition.
>>>> So far, he illustrates his arrogance better than the bike.
>>>>
>>>> A brown Confente? Barf! Retch!, no wonder he does not want to

show
>>>> photos.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Schmidt reporting live on a balmy July evening from..
>>>> South Stirling, Southern part of Northern NJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This whole thread is starting to make me laugh! I see no "RED
>>>>> FLAGS"
>>>>> with this auction whatsoever.
>>>>>
>>>>> The seller states:
>>>>> "...local pickup only (no shipping)." and "Cash only (no

cashier
>>>>> checks) will be accepted on buyers approval of item. Wire money
>>>>> directly to my bank."
>>>>>
>>>>> If I was selling my Confente (two numbers before the frame being
>>>>> auctioned) I'd have the buyer (or his representative) look over

the
>>>>> frame and then, upon their approval of the frame, give me the

CASH.
>>>>> There's no way I'd pack up a frame worth $4500 plus and send it

off
>>>>> with a shipper... no way. And yes, if a complete Confente went

for
>>>>> $8,000 on eBay more than a few years ago (a CR member was the
>>>>> buyer), then the frame might actually be worth $4500... if you

want
>>>>> to own a Confente that is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Time for the list to take their chill pill.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck Schmidt
>>>>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>>>>
>>>>> .