Those are M8x1.25 (as in, each full turn of the fastener tightens things 1.25mm). It's a very standard metric size.
You won't, however, easily find them with the first 6mm of their length unthreaded like the Phil ones, nor will you easily find the washer. PW *must* sell them.
In the interim, though, a trip to a good hardware store will net you an M8x1.25 SHCS (socket head cap screw) or, if you're lucky, a BHSCS (button head socket cap screw). Either of these should have you feeling much more secure, until the right parts arrive.
Still, if everything is working as intended, the fork will not actually be resting on the axle stub (or the side of your M8) during ordinary operation...the clamping force of a properly-tightened Q/R (or, in your case, the M8 end bolts) results in sufficient fork/hub friction that nothing moves (those serrations help). On the other hand, if things *aren't* tight enough, it's nice to have those axle stubs (or the M8 screw) in there so you have time to feel/notice that something is amiss before anything catastrophic happens (same idea with those irritating nubs on the fork dropouts (you know, the ones we all file off)).
Those stubs, or an M8 fastener, certainly make it easier to properly locate the front wheel while you're installing it. Sort of like hubcentric rings on car wheels...superfluous once the lugs are tightened, but helpful for getting the wheel properly centered on the hub face.
Cheers,
Scott Minneman Sunny (but brisk) San Francisco
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of LouDeeter@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:47 AM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Wanted: Phil Track Hub bolts
In a message dated 1/15/2006 2:42:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jswan@optonline.net writes:
. Those are propriety parts. How about getting them from Phil & Co?
I'll have to call Phil Wood. They aren't shown as a separately available item on the website.
http://www.philwood.com/
The website says they are 8 x 1.25mm. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but 8mm in diameter seems about right. And, I don't want the fork tips to sit on threads, so I'll try to get the right items. I'm hoping one of the bike shop list members has something like this in stock. I've been riding this bike for over a month with just a quick release skewer and didn't discover until today that there was no axle protruding from the hub body for the fork tips to engage. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL