Re: [CR] So-called death stems; where exactly.....

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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:48:43 -0500
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Subject: Re: [CR] So-called death stems; where exactly.....
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Thanks for all the hundreds of off list responses I got to this querie. It seems that the evidence is in that the Pivo stem's hollow section aims back toward the rider and emits a strange, glowing, emasculating Death Ray, hence it's called the Death stem. This same ray has been identified as the cause of the famous 737 crashes.

Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street Greensboro, NC 27408 USA 336-274-5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com Giant, Specialized, Orbea, Bianchi, Felt, Litespeed, Landshark, Colnago, Townie and other exotica. National Bicycle Dealers Association Board member

-----Original Message----- From: gpvb1@comcast.net To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:04:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [CR] So-called death stems; where exactly.....

Just FYI, that famous 737 failure occurred on a plane that had experienced something on the order of 300,000 compression / decompression cycles. It was a short-hop aircraft that had made over 300,000 take-offs and landings! It caused Boeing to re-write the maintenance specs. for 737s. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with bicycle parts breaking.

Greg Parker Ann Arbor, Michigan

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:47:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> To: oroboyz@aol.com, hdarr@localnet.com, dartley@co.ba.md.us, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Re: So-called death stems; where exactly.....

I've never had one fail, although I'm sure some do, as do some Cinelli and TTT stems. It would seem SOMEONE must have experienced such a failure, or perhaps heard rumors of such failures, else where did this "death stem" thing come from?

Unless the Cinelli and TTT marketing boys just manufactured the whole thing to trash the competition.

Funny thing, one of the most spectacular failures of an aluminum structure, in

which most of the top of an Aloha Ailines jetliner tore away in mid-flight some years ago, is absolutely undisputed and exhaustively documented. Yet no one speaks of "death planes" and the incident didn't seem to scare people away from flying, at least not for long.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

oroboyz@aol.com wrote: ...do they fail? Anyone? Anyone? Ferris? Ferris Bueller?

Dale Brown
Greensboro, NC USA