Early 70's. 1973/74 maybe.
When I first met Dale Brown and was a shop rat. Maybe I missed the point on what Peter's trying to do. I'm really hope I'm not as anal as I appear. It came from a shop near Carrboro, NC. May have been Performance. Anyway I had a Lilac colored Raleigh Competition at the time.
But it was love at first sight with the Legnano. Man I miss the Legnano but eventually needed money to get thru school. It was metallic gold with red pin stripe. Back then there weren't many options on brakes. I was so much older then.........
BTW my favorite TT bike is the curved seat tubed Roberts Dale has on the wall (which he'll probably never sell to me).
Peace, Rob Dayton Charlotte,NC USA
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Fred Rafael Rednor Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:57 PM To: kohl57@starpower.net Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: RE: [CR]Side Pull Selection
Rob,
It's kind of ironic. You're correct that in "days of yore"
everyone had Weinmanns. But today, all the classic
lightweights you see are using Campagnolo brakes. As for the
pads, I wouldn't use the originals on any of these brakes, even
if that means sacrificing originality.
It is true that the Campagnolo brakes are easier to adjust
and center. To me, that was their real advantage. As far as
stopping power is concerned, I believe Universal were the best
of the lot. But they were the most difficult to adjust and
center.
By the way, when did you get that Legnano? I saw lots of
Atala, Legnano and Frejus with NR derailleurs and hubs but very
few of them had Campagnolo brakes. This would be during the
1960s and early 1970s.
Best regards,
Fred
>
>
> To each his own.
> I've worn out my share of brakes.
> I think Campagnolo had better feel, easier to adjust, easier
> to keep
> centered and the brake pads didn't glaze over as easy.
> Peter said everyone had Campagnolo. In my neighborhood
> everyone had Weinman.
> From a Schwinn Stingray up thru a Raleigh International.
> And when I could afford a NR Legnano I never looked back.
> Regards,
> Rob Dayton
> USA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
> Fred Rafael
> Rednor
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:34 PM
> To: kohl57@starpower.net
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Side Pull Selection
>
> Maybe so - but the Weinman stopped your bike just as well if
> not better. They just weren't as "classy" as the Campagnolo
> brakes. The main thing going for the Campagnolo brakes were
> the lever, which was much nicer than Weinmann. The Weinmann
> unit uses the same piece for the lever pivot and as a holder
> for the mounting screw.
>
> Campagnolo (and Universal levers) have those functions
> performed by separate pieces. Now, my Atala came equipped
> with
> Universal levers and Weinmann brakes, so there's a precedent
> for that.
> Regards,
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
>
> --- rdayton@carolina.rr.com wrote:
>
> > Let's see.........
> >
> > In 1971 if it WASN'T Campagnolo I didn't want to ride it.
> >
> > We drooled to get a Campagnolo bike. Nothing came close.
> >
> > We only used other equipment 'cause we couldn't afford
> > Campagnolo.
> >
> > Rob Dayton
> > Charlotte, NC
> > USA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kohl57@starpower.net" <kohl57@starpower.net>
> > Date: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:25 pm
> > Subject: [CR]Side Pull Selection
> >
> > > So it's 1971 and you have a really nice racing bike you
> > want to
> > > spec for
> > > fast time trial stuff. You don't want Campagnolo Record
> > brakes because
> > > everyone has them and you think one of the two would be
> > better and
> > > lighter:
> > >
> > > Universal 68s
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > Weinmann 500s
> > >
> > > Which would you pick? Neither might be an answer if a
> good
> > period
> > > correct
> > > alternate were suggested.
> > >
> > > Peter Kohler
> > > Washington DC USA
> > >
> > >
> >
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