Hi all:
Happy new year to all of you. Time to weed the collection of one great but trumped bike. One of you might be interested in this not so common bike.
Vista Aero Shimano Dura Ace AX Professional team bike
http://ebay.com/
Thanks
Bradley
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> 1. Re: Dating Nervex Pro lugs (Peter Naiman)
> 2. Re: Value of a 1940s Schwinn Paramount Track Bike (Peter Naiman)
> 3. Re: Value of a 1940s Schwinn Paramount Track Bike
> 4. Re: Vintage bikes - Wailea, Maui ? (Mike Schmidt)
> 5. Was: dumb gearing question (Bianca Pratorius)
> 6. Cost estimate of chroming... (Don Wilson)
> 7. Classic Wheels slower or substantially slower (Doug Smith)
> 8. Re: Rene Herse pictures - 1st pic (Jan Heine)
> 9. Re: Was: dumb gearing question (Phil Sieg)
> 10. Re: Classic Wheels slower or substantially slower
> 11. Pic: From when to when were Simplex JUY D shifters made?
> (Don Wilson)
> 12. WTB: Bare Roval rim, 24h, silver, tubular - -Baron? (dddd)
> 13. Re: Was: dumb gearing question (Chuck Schmidt)
> 14. Re Bicycling mags/articles for sale
> 15. Mondia Frameset for sale 55cm c-c (Otis)
> 16. HINAULT'S BIKE (Norris Lockley)
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:16:03 -0800 (PST)
> From: Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>
> To: Robert Clair <r.clair@cox.net>,
> classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Dating Nervex Pro lugs
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> Robert; I'll be at the cycle shop on Monday or Tuesday of next week to get
the serial number and get a few jpgs up for folks to look at. I've gotten a
few letters offlist about the Nervex Pro lugs and it seems like they were
available as early as 1952. I'm talking to Richard Schwinn next week
possibly, so I'll forward the jpgs to him to see if Waterford has any
information available.
>
> Best regards,
> Peter
>
>
> Robert Clair <r.clair@cox.net> wrote: .... agree with the others. have
seen on occassion a restored '55 (# 421
> on the middle of the bb) around these parts, and it has ... keyhole styled
> lugs, adjustable stem, and high flange wheels. i have been told this may
> be the last year that schwinn did an "all schwinn" parts list for
> paramounts. the top eyes are a very small oval plate, not the round ball
> type as seen on harvey's. yes, a serial # would be the key here ... also
> original pedals for these are very hard to find ... or so we've been told.
> r clair
> alexandria, va
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Naiman"
> To: "classicrendezvous"
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:21 PM
> Subject: [CR]Dating Nervex Pro lugs
>
>
> >I wrote earlier today about a very nice Schwinn Paramount track bike with
> >what looks Nervex Pro lugs. When I and at a freind looked at it, we
thought
> >it might be 1940s, but as I'm a novice about Paramounts our guess of
> >vintage was way off possibly. Bill Curtis wrote stating he thought Nervex
> >Pro started in latter 1950s. Out of curiousity and in help in dating the
> >Paramount, does anybody know the approximate timeline of these lugs.
> >
> > Peter Naiman
> > Glendale, WI
> >
> >
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:27:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>
> To: Tom Hayes <hayesbikes@gmail.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Value of a 1940s Schwinn Paramount Track Bike
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> Tom; I checked the Waterford Precision site and they state that a few
Paramounts were built with Nervex lugs starting in 1952, and Campagnolo
dropouts.
>
> Peter Naiman
> Glendale, WI
>
> Tom Hayes <hayesbikes@gmail.com> wrote: Peter,
>
> Wherever that Schwinn site is, I believe it's connected to the Waterford
site, they have the history of Paramount, including those made by the
Wastyns, which one of your era would fit. I had a thirties Paramount at one
time, for whatever that is worth related to a forties one, and it did not
have Nervex lugs. The Wastyn's,though slightly crabby when I talked to
them, still supply some information, much better information if you go and
visit them in Chicago, very good information if you bring a bike made by
either their father or grandfather. Wastyns also had a particular mark they
put on Paramounts, but I forget what it is. The date code stamping was
different too.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 1/6/06, Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com> wrote: I've a chance to
purchase a complete 1940s Paramount track bike which at first site appears
to be completely original Schwinn Paramount track componants, with the drop
adjustable stem, and highflange hubs. The frame looks be be Nervex Pro lugs,
and is re-enameled. Unfortunately the seat post, seat and pedals are
missing, but all else is complete and in excellent condition. Just wondering
if anyone on the list has a rough idea of value.
>
> Peter Naiman
> Glendale, WI
>
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:39:43 EST
> From: SM2501@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Value of a 1940s Schwinn Paramount Track Bike
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> In a message dated 01/07/2006 2:28:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> hetchinspete1@yahoo.com writes:
>
> . Wastyns also had a particular mark they put on Paramounts, but I
forget
> what it is.
>
>
>
> I would like to hear more about this "mark" on Wastyn built Paramount's.
> Anybody know what that might be?
>
> Scott McCaskey
> Dalworthington Gardens, TX
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:43:12 -0500
> From: "Mike Schmidt" <mdschmidt@patmedia.net>
> To: "Rich Pinder" <rpinder@usc.edu>,
> "classic" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Vintage bikes - Wailea, Maui ?
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> Rich, From personal experience.... There are 3 bike shops on Maui that
rent
> road bikes. They are located in Kihei, Laheina and the area right by the
> airport. The rate is 50 bucks a day or $200 for the week. Most of the
> rental road bikes are aluminum though. I suggest that you call ahead and
> talk to each shop owner.
> West Maui Cycles in Lahaina http://www.westmauicycles.com/
> Island Biker at the airport (Best bet for a steel bike)
> South Maui Bicycles, 1993 South Kihei Road # 5 , Kihei. 808) 874-0068 -
This
> is next to Wailea.
>
> Here is a good website as well. http://www.mauibicyclealliance.org/
>
> I rented a Specialzed as that was the only bike available at the time.
>
> Aloha and have fun.
> Mike Schmidt
> Stirling, NJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich Pinder" <rpinder@usc.edu>
> To: "classic" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:22 AM
> Subject: [CR]Vintage bikes - Wailea, Maui ?
>
>
> > I know it's a long shot, but does anyone know of a shop (or member?)
> > that might rent a steel bike over on Maui ? 58 - 60cm ??
> >
> > Last year I had such great luck in Boston and New Orleans, I just HAVE
> > to ask !
> >
> > Pics of what I rode on those trips:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:49:57 -0500
> From: Bianca Pratorius <biankita@earthlink.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Was: dumb gearing question
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> Typical 5 speed freewheel for multi use was 14-16-18-21-24. This is
> what I rode on two old 5 speeds. My 80's 6 speed freewheel was also
> 14-24 but I can't remember the jumps... Maybe (14,16,18,20,22,24?). I
> am looking at a 70's typical racing 5 speed right now (Regina Oro) and
> it is 13,14,15,17,19. My 80's 6 speed freewheels are 13-23 and 13-24
> but I can look at you right in the face and tell you that I NEVER use
> the 13 cog for anything, even downhills, but with my 52/42 chainwheels
> I consistently use the 52/17 and 52/19 for level ground and the 42/19 -
> 42/21 - and 42/23 or 42/24 for climbing hills. I have absolutely no
> idea what anyone does with a 53/12 considering the world's hour record
> was set with 52/14! I think the 11 and 12 cogs are used mostly for
> massaging one's ego or 45 plus mph going downhill.
>
> Garth Libre in Miami Fl.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:57:30 -0800 (PST)
> From: Don Wilson <dcwilson3@yahoo.com>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Cost estimate of chroming...
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> I'm in central California near Santa Barbara. I'm
> thinking of rechroming one of my old bikes.
> Approximately what would it cost to rechrome the head
> lugs, fork lowers, and stays? Someone mentioned a
> place in San Jose recently. Any one know of a firm
> closer to me?
>
> Best regards,
> Don Wilson
> Los Olivos, CA
>
> D.C. Wilson dcwilson3@yahoo.com
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:58:39 -0000
> From: "Doug Smith" <doug@kingsweir.plus.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Classic Wheels slower or substantially slower
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> Without going delving into this controversial subject in too deeply I do
> not consider anyone can with hand on heart really say which is the
> correct answer. Whether it be old cane ,steel or new carbon rims
> ,single, doubled butted or bladed spokes, quality of large flanged or
> small flange hubs ,sealed or otherwise, types of tyres , road surface
> conditions and terrain and quality of wheel building ,these should all
> be taken into consideration when trying to answer the question. To my
> way of thinking no one individual has a true answer , only by their own
> experiences can anyone at least try to judge which could be the
> solution.But other than that I suggest we will never know and I'm sure
> in the end , we will all agree to differ !
>
> Safe riding whether fast or slow.
>
> Doug Smith
> North Dorset
> UK
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:12:28 -0800
> From: Jan Heine <heine93@earthlink.net>
> To: "Aldo Ross" <aldoross4@siscom.net>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: Rene Herse pictures - 1st pic
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>
> >Some interesting details in the first Herse pic, from 1945-49:
> >
> >http://www.pianosromantiques.com/images/godartearly.jpg
> >
> >Very delicate mounting of the headlamp.
>
> Just looks like it. Herse started doing his special mounts after this
> bike was made. This is the standard Radios part. I think the
> screw/nut shows black... making it look as if the light is held up by
> two wires.
>
> >
> >Splash guard nearly reaches the road when the front wheel is straight.
> >
> >Does it look like the splash guard is made from rubber?
>
> Yes, rubber.
>
> >
> >Splash guard is attached behind the garde-boue (mud
> >guards/fenders/parafanghi) a few inches from the bottom. Is there a
> >special fitting of some sort?
>
> Yes. Aluminum strap screwed onto fenders, mudflap sandwiched in between.
>
> >
> >No bottles or cages.
> >
> >36 spokes, front and rear.
> >
> >1 inch of seatpost showing, handlebars at saddle height. (Tell me
> >again, bikeshop boy - What size do I ride?)
>
> Somehow, French cyclotourists were able to reproduce, despite the
> clear lack of standover clearance! Maybe they were able to stop and
> put only one foot down, rather than jumping off with both feet?
>
> >
> >Is there a special tool to reach the brake lever from the drops? ;-)
> >I don't think my stubby fingers would ever get there.
>
> The Lefol brake levers came with different reaches. No idea why the
> "huge reach" version was used here. That one usually is found on city
> bikes with flat bars
>
> >
> >At first glance it appears that the bike weighs at least half as
> >much as the rider.
>
> In which case the rider would weigh less than 50 lbs. This 1940s Rene
> Herse certainly was lighter than most racing bikes of the era, and
> lighter than most bikes that came later. Depending on whether it is
> made from 4/10 or heavier Vitus tubing, whether the saddle has an
> alloy frame, and whether the tires are handmade or heavier standard
> ones, that bike complete weighs between 23 and 24.5 lbs. Unless it's
> somehow special, like one made for the technical trials, in which
> case it weighed a lot less.
>
> While we are at it, note the very thin fork blades (at the bottom),
> the large amount of rake, and the elaborate pinstriping.
>
> Also note the rider's attire - cyclotourist events did not allow
> tight-fitting clothes back then. The shorts are special riding
> shorts, and he probably is wearing a chamois underneath. (Similar to
> mountain bikers today.)
>
> --
> Jan Heine, Seattle
> Editor/Publisher
> Vintage Bicycle Quarterly
> c/o Il Vecchio Bicycles
> 140 Lakeside Ave, Ste. C
> Seattle WA 98122
> http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 16:20:42 -0500
> From: Phil Sieg <triodelover@comcast.net>
> To: Bianca Pratorius <biankita@earthlink.net>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Was: dumb gearing question
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>
> Bianca Pratorius wrote:
>
> > ...I NEVER use the 13 cog for anything, even downhills, but with my
> > 52/42 chainwheels I consistently use the 52/17 and 52/19 for level
> > ground and the 42/19 - 42/21 - and 42/23 or 42/24 for climbing hills.
>
>
> When did Miami (or Florida for that matter) get hills? I lived there
> from '57 to '59 and all I remember is flat, hot, bugs and mildew.
> Beastly place. ;-)
>
> --
> Phil Sieg
> Knoxville, Tennessee
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 16:23:08 -0500
> From: joebz@optonline.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Classic Wheels slower or substantially slower
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> There is one set of classic wheels that has to be as fast as most anything
today and that is Roval. Aero rims, bladed spokes and less spokes. All there
in a classic wheel.
>
> Here's a rather garish Redcay sporting Rovals:
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
> Great Notch, NJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doug Smith <doug@kingsweir.plus.com>
> Date: Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:58 pm
> Subject: [CR]Classic Wheels slower or substantially slower
>
> > Without going delving into this controversial subject in too deeply
> > I do
> > not consider anyone can with hand on heart really say which is the
> > correct answer. Whether it be old cane ,steel or new carbon rims
> > ,single, doubled butted or bladed spokes, quality of large flanged
> > or
> > small flange hubs ,sealed or otherwise, types of tyres , road
> > surface
> > conditions and terrain and quality of wheel building ,these should
> > all
> > be taken into consideration when trying to answer the question. To
> > my
> > way of thinking no one individual has a true answer , only by their
> > own
> > experiences can anyone at least try to judge which could be the
> > solution.But other than that I suggest we will never know and I'm
> > sure
> > in the end , we will all agree to differ !
> >
> > Safe riding whether fast or slow.
> >
> > Doug Smith
> > North Dorset
> > UK
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:27:01 -0800 (PST)
> From: Don Wilson <dcwilson3@yahoo.com>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Pic: From when to when were Simplex JUY D shifters made?
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> I'm contemplating my old Girardengo with a Simplex JUY
> D seat tube shifter just like the one pictured on this
> old German Werkes bike currently listed on ebay.
>
http://ebay.com/
>
> >From approximately when to when would this Simplex JUY
> D have been made? FWIW, my shifter was made by Simplex
> in Italy, not France. It might help me date my Gira.
>
> Don Wilson
> Los Olivos, CA
>
> D.C. Wilson dcwilson3@yahoo.com
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:52:20 -0800
> From: "dddd" <dddd@pacbell.net>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]WTB: Bare Roval rim, 24h, silver, tubular - -Baron?
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> Dinged my rear rim, looking for a replacement.
>
> Didn't Baron buy a bunch of these? I thought it came up a while back.
>
> David Snyder
> Auburn, CA
> USA
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:59:11 -0800
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Was: dumb gearing question
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> Bianca Pratorius wrote:
> >
> > (cut) I have absolutely no
> > idea what anyone does with a 53/12 considering the world's hour record
> > was set with 52/14! I think the 11 and 12 cogs are used mostly for
> > massaging one's ego or 45 plus mph going downhill.
>
>
> Keep in mind that we are talking about _racing_ bikes here Garth!!!
>
> The two clubs I had been a member of in the mid 1970s (PAA and Montrose)
> were racing clubs and we rode to Mt. Wilson (start at 750ft climb to
> 5200ft) and Dawson's Saddle (start at 750ft climb to 7900ft) with 53/42
> chainrings and 12 or 13/21 freewheels... 42x21 for the climbs and if you
> couldn't handle that you weren't going fast enough and you were dropped!
>
> Downhill same story... 53x12 and spinning like a monkey or you got
> dropped. Massaging one's ego? Hardly! No poseurs in our group... we
> rode those guys off our wheels.
>
> The Rose Bowl twice weekly 32mi training races averaged 29mph.
>
> If you couldn't stay on top of these gears then you couldn't hang with
> the group 'cuz you were off the back.
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, Southern California
>
> .
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:46:06 +1300
> From: <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Re Bicycling mags/articles for sale
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> Hi All, a while ago I posted a list of bicycling magazines for sale, well
that went as well as a lead ballon, the problem is that they weigh too much
and exceed letter rate, so if anyone is interested in articles from the
magazines I am going to dissmantle the magazines and sell the articles,
features etc. Articles/ features will be 50 cents each, covers will be 25
cents each, adverts etc will be 10 cents a sheet. P&P will be at cost which
to the USA will be US$1.50 letterrate airmail uninsured, min order will be
$1.00, will only take paypal or cash, paypal will incur 5% for fees.
>
> If you want a list of the mags with their articles etc please contact me
direct. I'm not at home at the moment, but will be later in the day.
>
> If you have a wants list please feel free to send me one, but don't
expect anything on Klien Quantum, Galli or Rigi, everything else will be
thou, I do have some from the 70's, mainly from the 80's and some OT dates
also....regards wayne davidson Invers NZ......
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0800
> From: "Otis" <otis@otisrecords.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Mondia Frameset for sale 55cm c-c
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> 1984 Mondia racing frame. 55cm center-center ST / 55cm center-center TT.
> Reynolds 531. Cyclart Cat 1 re-finish with nice box lining and
pinstriping.
>
> Gorgeous bike but a couple of "issues". BB developed a hairline crack
after
> re-finish, which was repaired locally by Mike DeSalvo at UBI, then touched
> up. Touch-up on metallic paint is iffy at best and it does look kind of
> blotchy. But when built up should not be too noticeable. And for some
reason
> the owner decided to remove the front derailleur braze-on after the
> re-finish. It was done cleanly but there's a big paint chip there. Again
> with a clamp-on der in place it should not be too offensive. 2 sets of
> bottle bosses were added before the re-finish (one on seat tube, one under
> down-tube).
>
> Other than all that very nice. French threading, 26.6 seat-post, 130mm
rear
> spacing. Campy drops. Includes an excellent Super Record headset, Mondia
> panto stem 9cm, and Campy BB cups (no axle or bearings). Asking $300 plus
> actual shipping. Links to photos:
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> http://uci.net/
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> http://uci.net/
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> http://uci.net/
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> Thanks, Jon Williams
> Grants Pass Oregon
>
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> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 00:23:33 -0000
> From: "Norris Lockley" <norris@norrislockley.wanadoo.co.uk>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]HINAULT'S BIKE
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> Happy New Year to everybody! I know that this greeting is a little late,
> but this email represents my third attempt to send it since a
> catastrophic collapse in my computer system forced it into early
> retirement, taking with it all the information, emails, photos etc that,
> had I known how to do the process, I would have transferred to hard
> disc..or whatever the measure is that one is supposed to take to avoid
> losong without trace, important archive material. So I have been
> computer-less since Christmas and have only just, today, managed to get
> the new one up and running.
>
> I would like to apologise to a number of List members who had sent me
> emails, and who will still be waiting for replies. I had accumulated
> quite a lot of correspondence and intended dealing with it over the
> holiday period..but will not be able to do so now..so please accept my
> sincere apologies.
>
> Now as for Hinault's bikes in that Coors Classic , his steel frames, or
> those on the car roof appear to be nof French manufacture, judging by
> some of the detail I can make out, but the very long champhered top-eye
> plate looks quite English in style. In the early 80s there were still
> plenty of top-class frame builders around in France
>
> As for the carbon frame that Hinault is riding in the second stage..this
> looks like the prototype TVT/Look that the team were testing. The frames
> were made by TCT -"Tubes-Composites-Tisses" a firm that had pioneered
> this design in 1981. I had imported three of the first six made and then
> got the strange idea of becoming the UK importer. At the 1983 Paris Show
> I tried to negotiate the sole rights to the frames but discovered that a
> certain French business tycoon, Bernard Tapie- the owner of the La Vie
> Claire- Look team -was also on the TCT stand negotiating sole World
> rights..so I didn't stand much of a chance. As the triumphant Tapie said
> to me "Tant pis!"
>
> Tapie negotiated a 5-year contract to build the black carbon frames that
> bore the LOOK transfer. TVT did not make the frames, just simply
> manufactured the tubing, and forks, and a small foundary/machine shop in
> Lyon,.Lyon-Raccords, supplied the lugs and ends. The LOOK-built carbon
> frames quickly gained a a reputation, certainly in the UK, for
> de-bonding, so much so that TCT revoked the contract after three years
> because they feared that de-bonding frames would give the newly-born
> carbon frame market a very bad name, and the company had great ambitions
> to become the Reynolds or Columbus of the carbon frame industry.
>
> TCT dropped that name and became TVT "Tubes-Verre-Tisse" and started
> building frames in its own right...the design being altered, the
> seat-stays being curved in above the brake-bridge..and Delgado rode the
> new model with "Pinarello" transfers , and a red livery, to victory in
> the 1987 Tour de France.
>
> Needless to say, Tapie did not take the rejection and annulment of the
> contract lightly, setting up his own company..and embarking on a long
> and very expensive law suit...but that, as they say, is another story.
>
> Norris Lockley..asuming that this email will actually leave my new
> computer..Settle UK
>
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