Len, Yeah terrible what happened to the Rhyll lads it seems to be getting worse. Did you see the bit in today's Guardian? Regarding the Thanet on ebay sure the seller is that guy they call AVT from the VCC. He has stalls at most cycling jumbles wasn't he fancy lugs on ebay now just plainlugs, see he answered the question as Alexandre must be him. Have you seen all the other stuff on there at the moment. On the classic front there is a Hill Special, Leach Marathon, Dave Davey plus a great little frame with the Upton on it. Now there's a big club that's vanished off the scene! On the TT scene there is a DeMayo, Dave Hinde and a super Lo Pro Orbit. But my favourite is that Gios you can have the Thanet I settle for that! Be lucky Mickey.