Re: [CR]Re: panto-ing

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli:Laser)

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From: "Mark Buswell|SisuHome" <mark@sisuhome.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: panto-ing
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:46:49 -0700
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Thanks Alan.

I have considered contacting some engravers here in the city (San Francisco). While there are many, I need to find someone that can engrave deeply (instead of just etching the surface) and someone that

can do the cuts in one pass. It looks like that's how original panto'ing was done. I believe the machine used is called a CNC mill (?).

Thanks for the tip. Mark Buswell San Francisco, CA United States

On Oct 6, 2006, at 1:22 PM, worthy2@earthlink.net wrote:
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>
>> Has anyone ever had a stem pantographed by an engraver or machinist?
>>
>> I'm looking to have a black anodized Cinelli 1R stem pantographed
>> with the Rossin logos and 3 stripes. Attention to detail is a must
>> since it is essentially going to be a replica. I'm wary of bringing
>> it to just anyone. If anyone has had experience with this, let me
>> know. I know the stem has got to be out there but dang it, 2 years of
>> looking and haven't seen one.
>>
>> I live in the Bay Area, San Francisco to be exact, so a local person
>> would be ideal.
> Mark, I had a brief job in a SF trophy shop that used a
> pantographing engraving machine (and idiot operator) to engrave
> anything that came through the door. That trophy shop is long gone,
> but I'm sure there's a survivor somewhere in the Bay Area. We had a
> cyclist come in once with a crankset and pay for some engraving
> that the idiot screwed up, ruining the customer's crank, but that
> was fairly common in this shop. I'd suggest you supply the master
> guide, in the form of a zinc die that is made up-size (say 200%)
> from your camera-ready art or Illustrator file, from a diemaker
> like Apex in San Carlos, for example. Supply that to the
> pantographer with exact area-to-be-engraved taped off and
> percentage written right on it (50%)...it'll be almost idiot proof.
> Good Luck,
> Alan Goldsworthy
> San Francisco, CA, USA
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