I think you missed my point. Yes, 7400 (New Dura Ace) hubs were available as screw-on at the 1984 intro. FWs and casettes were 6-spd only, until a couple years later, when a new 7-speed casette hub and cogs, new FW, new shifter and new derailleur were brought out. It was only when 8 speed was introduced that the screw-on option became unviable, and was subsequently dropped.
The on-topic question was whether the EX hubs were available as screw-on, or if you would just need to use an original DA rear hub. Was the orig. DA rear hub repackaged as EX? I'm pretty sure there was no screw-on rear hub that was uniquely EX. The later Direction 6 and AX hubs were all cassette only, as far as I know.
Bit of trivia, the DA EX Cassette did come in a five-speed version.
Oh, and I agree that the New DA freewheels were very, very nice.
Tom Dalton Bethlehem PA USA
Freek Faro <khun.freek@gmail.com> wrote: David, Tom,
In 1988 Dura Ace (called: 'New Dura Ace') hubs were indeed available in both cassette and freewheel versions. The frewheel were avialable in 6 and 7 speed, and I consider the best freewheels ever. I cover the ones i still have and use.
We really are veering off-topic (well, off-timeline) here!
Freek (7-speed freewheels work with 8-speed Ergo shifters!) Faro Rotterdam Netherlands
2006/10/13, Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>: David,
I might be interested to see your catalog scans, because what you've said doesn't exactly correlate to what I remember. As I recall, the EX hubs were actually cassette only, as were the Direction-6 EX hubs and the AX hubs. Only when the 7400 group came out was the screw-on hub again offered. After AX, the 7400 group represented a big swing back toward conservatism on the part of Shimano. Other than the obvious addition of SIS, which turned out to be a very significant improvement, the 7400 group was more or less modeled on NR/SR parts. There were lots of little "improvements" over the Campy offerings, and some relatively minor features, like the low profile pedals, were substantially different from Campy, but overall the group was pretty conservative, at least relative to AX.
I may be wrong about the lack of a screw-on EX hub, but I think it was the addition of the cassette that defined the EX hub. Other than the addition of the cassette (a major differece) the only difference I recall is the QR nut. So, a screw on EX would have been just an original DA with a different QR. If I'm correct here, I suppose the real question would be whether Shimano kept making the screw-on DA hub after 1978, slappping on an EX QR nut and dropping it in a different box.
Actually, it seems that early in the EX days, Shimano played a little fast and loose on the packaging. I've seen some NIP DA spare parts in EX packaging.
Tom Dalton Bethlehem, PA, USA
CR timeline hubs were made in both freewheel and freehub variants (I have catalogue scans if anyone needs to see them), and I have post CR ~'86 Dura Ace 7400 series hubs in both freehub and freewheel versions. I don't think Dura Ace was exclusively freehub until ~'88-'89 or so.
David -- David Bilenkey Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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