Dear Joe:
Just to be crystal clear re: some of your comments:
You wrote: "The bloke who knows quite a bit about Kirk is not allowed to subscribe to CR anymore.... "
This is not accurate. Whoever you are speaking of might very well be able to participate again if his request to rejoin was accompanied by a sincere apology and pledge to follow the rules. As some charter members can attest, I have issued a number of second (and third) chances.... " I am afraid a lot of this is off topic but our American cousins can get
Teledyne postings in so perhaps this might be allowed."
You should note that Teledyne Titans (and Speedwell Titaniums) predate the Kirk by
at least 10 years, well within the 1983 cut off for this forum. In fact,
I myself am fascinated by the eccentric Kirk Magnesiums and I own one (and it
IS a heavy thing!)
" You might want to post this as I dare not risk antagonising the list
and finish up going the way of the rest of them. "
Hmmm, you are referring to the many social misfits? All of them? Well, I am glad
you were careful not to post that so I couldn't see it and give you the boot
in a fit of rage as I am prone to do. Ha! You are so silly! Thanks for your contributions to our list!!!
Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA http://www.classicrendezvous.com -----Original Message----- From: joeking@fastmail.fm To: peterg.brown@ntlworld.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Magenesium framed bike - Kirk Genesis
Peter,
As you already know the the Kirk road frames and mountain bike frames
are really quite light. Can't honestly beleive that someone would
describe them as heavy as a dog. They were originally made by Kirk
Precision Ltd. 6-10 Bancroft Road. South Woodham Ferrers, Chelmsford,
Essex.
They went t---s up! Some of the employees redundancy payments were paid
out in frames and equipment. That's why there where loads around going
cheap, they were selling them to get their redundo cash. Then Norsk
Electric got hold of the firm, they actually used one and half cubic
metre's of sea water to make the magnesium frames. They gave up and
Dawes cycles finally got them.
They had a British Pro team in 1990, Airmarshall Kirk Precision and
Impsport, Medella and Bolle were also involved. The riders were Andy
Johnson, Ian Saunders, Hilton McMurdo, Dave Mann and Steve Sefton.
Airmarshall are just up the road from you in King Edward Street Grimsby.
They were also ridden in the Tour De France by I think Buckler or TVM, I
think probably the later. The early road frames had trouble with the
rear ends breaking but they sorted this problem out quite early on in
the production run.
The bloke who knows quite a bit about Kirk is not allowed to subscribe
to CR anymore. Lets just say he is no lightweight (15 stone) but he
raced a Kirk Revolution in Cyclo Cross and MTB Races with quite a lot of
sucess in his age related group. Anyone who has ridden alongside him on
his Hetchins track iron will know how powerful a rider he is despite
being
nearly 60. So the Kirk's must be strong. He has now donated his Kirk to
the National Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh.
I am afraid a lot of this is off topic but our American cousins can get
Teledyne postings in so perhaps this might be allowed.
They originally tried to make a magnesium tubed version without success.
Also tried other cast frame patterns but it wasn't until the makers saw
a Paris Galibier in Brentwood High Street that they met with luck.
The Paris belonged to an old Brentwood Road Club member whose name
escapes me but as you know the Brentwood were all conquering in the
1950's. Gibbons, Shaw and Spanton being the stars of this famous club.
Well they used the Galibier design for the Kirk and it made up into a
very light frame.
You might want to post this as I dare not risk antagonising the list
and finish up going the way of the rest of them.
Found a picture of Airmarshall Kirk Team but not of the TdeF TVM boys.
Best wishes Joe.
Croeso Cymru Joe King Nr. Maenaddwyn Ynys Mon Wales
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