Re: [CR]Team Pro 753 frame followup

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Ideale)

Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:15:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Team Pro 753 frame followup
To: Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com>, CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <70e14d4c0611120735x2bef5e52sd20123caaa4fd247@mail.gmail.com>


Interesting. I have never been sure what exactly was Eddy's level of personal involvement in design and production of his bikes or with feedback from the teams he supplied. This would sound like he is very active indeed, perhaps on a parr with Ernesto Colnago. Perhaps Eddy would have been a legendary bike producer like Cino Cinelli, Ugo Derosa, Faliero Masi and Colnago if he hadn't been even more legendary as a rider. Kind of like Babe Ruth's legendary status as a hitter obscures the fact that early on he was one of the best pitchers of his generation.

Regards,

Jerry Moos

Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com> wrote: Andy Hampsten wrote this note to me in 2004; note 753 mentions:

"Hi Angel, Good eyes there. Eddy Merckx was and still is the master of matching riders to frames. He would start all of us on Columbus's Max tubing for the earlier season races. They weighed more than other tube sets but it was a joy to get such responsiveness out of a frame. For my bikes Eddy would get me on lighter but very strong frames for the April Ardennes races and early stage races. By June and the important stage races I would be flying on his lighter bikes with the Tour ride being a very sweet Reynolds 753 based super light frame ready to rocket. Of course a lot of riders, me included would moan about "yeah but that team gets to ride super light carbon or aluminum" or what ever else looked like greener grass to us. Eddy was good at pointing out to us that there was no sense shaving ounces off of a frame and fork that would save us seconds on the climbs but wouldn't handle well. "Why gain 40 seconds on a climb and loose 2 minutes on a descent?" he would reason. Looking back to where those materials where in the early 90s I have to agree. The riders where able to decide what they wanted to ride on. Of course it was limited and I hate to say it but it depended on how the rider's political status was with the team. Eddy took care of all the riders but few were spoiled with a new frame every week or two like I was. I really liked the 753 tube set, but Eddy knew it was not a long lasting material. He let me use them for the mountainous tours and a few big one day races, and then put them to rest. In '88 I had a fantastic frame made by John Slawta of Landshark that got me up and over the snowy Gavia pass. He used Tange Prestige tubing back then.

Enjoy your ride, whatever it is. Andy Hampsten"

Angel Garcia Verona, IT

On 11/11/06, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
>
> In regard to the thread a couple of week ago about the possible 753 Team
> Pro. As Mike Mullett and Hilary pointed out, the 26.8 seatpost and metric
> tube diemnsions were pretty much the "smoking gun" as both said Raleigh
> would never have used metric gauge 531. Got the frame completely torn
> today. Thought I might need to find a scale, but that proved
> unnecessary. This is the lightest steel frame set I've ever held, by a wide
> margin. I've never owned a 753 frameset before.
>
> It's pretty filthy with a fair amount of surface rust and some ugly 90's
> eqiuipment decals addded. So it's going to require a repaint. But no dents
> or evidence of crashes.
>
> REgards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, West Texas