From: <oroboyz@aol.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Was: Stainless steel . Now KL or Record.
<< ...Just so this stays on topic let me add that I believe that using something like this stuff with its ultra-thin walls on a traditionally tubed bike (1" TT, 1.125" ST and DT) would be a real whippy ride. Ever ride the old Columbus KL or Record tubesets? >>
As they say in the Foreign Legion (well, maybe not there, but someone says it somewhere):
"It all depends on the frame size" Smaller folks can do it just fine, but......
Dale Brown
Greensboro, North Carolina USA
http://www.classicrendezvous.com
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From: brandon@ivycycles.com
To: veronaman@gmail.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Stainless steel tubing, Reynolds and Columbus
For me it's zip, zero, and nada. . . at least for a few years. Remember Armet from the early-90s? Ever try to work Metax? If you're interested in the stuff you should check in at the frameforum.net 953 forum at:
http://www.frameforum.net/forum2/index.php?showforum=39
I haven't been convinced that stainless is any better than non-stainless, just shinier and harder to work. If you want light checkout the True Temper S-3 tubing Hank sells:
http://www.henryjames.com/s3.html
I'll keep my eye on it to see if it develops and if it does and a customer wants to pony up the cash I'll give it a whorl. Until that time I'll stay on the sidelines. Just so this stays on topic let me add that I believe that using something like this stuff with its ultra-thin walls on a traditionally tubed bike (1" TT, 1.125" ST and DT) would be a real whippy ride. Ever ride the old Columbus KL or Record tubesets?
best,
Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
doesn't believe the hype
in Vancouver, B.C.
On Nov 11, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Angel Garcia wrote:
> Wondering what kind of impact stainless steel tubesets are going to > have in
> the market? Any of our KOF builders on the list planning to use?
>
> WATERFORD, using Reynolds 953, has built a lugged version using > tweaked some
> Richard Sachs stainless Newvex lugs, Pacenti stainless bottom bracket,
> silver brazed, polished frame, chromed 531 fork (for $3,500). For > photos go
> to http://www.waterfordbikes.com/, click on Models, then click on > Message
> Board, and scroll through until you see Reynolds 953 discussion).
>
>
> Columbus has announced their new stainless steel tubeset (see below):
> Courtesy of http://www.cyclingnews.com
> "Columbus takes another shot at stainless steel tubing
>
> After a long hiatus, Columbus has reintroduced a stainless steel > tubeset,
> dubbed XCr. Unlike the older Metax pipes, XCr will be truly seamless,
> starting from a solid machined billet and then cold drawn to > produce the
> final wall thicknesses. Columbus claims that this production method > will
> keep the mechanical properties constant and uniform throughout the > entire
> round section of the tube. Moreover, the grain structure of the new > XCr
> tubing is said to be unaffected by welding, thus maintaining joint > strength.
>
> As expected, frames built with the new XCr tubes will boast excellent
> resistance to corrosion, and many builders will likely opt to use a > bare
> finish. XCr frames also promise to be rather light as well, since > tube walls
> as thin as 0.4mm will be possible given the material's high > strength. "
>
> Angel Garcia
> Verona, IT
>
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