Re: [CR]plain gauge for hub gears?

(Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi)

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:34:11 -0800 (PST)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]plain gauge for hub gears?
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <20061113173537.80133.qmail@web54704.mail.yahoo.com>


Simon,
     I think you do need to use the thicker spokes with these hubs, but the issue - if I understand things correctly - has to do with the large diameter of the spoke holes in the hub. If you search the CR archives, there should be a reasonable number of posts discussing this. Some also might have mentioned the thickness (or more properly, the thin-ness) of the SA hub flanges, which also affects the spoke you can use.
     If you use the double butted spokes, there are these tiny washers that you install between the spoke head and the hub. They help keep things tight, which also works to prevent breakage at that end of the spoke. So I know it's a tough decision...
     Good luck,
     Fred


-------- simon bird wrote:


> i've just picked up a wheelset that an ancient wheelbuilder
> made for me. its for a fast london hack (with a bit of style)
> and will go onto a beautiful 1948 frame once its repainted.
> the front wheel is lovely, suntour superbe pro on ma2 built 4
> cross(!) with 15/17 db spokes. he built the sturmey archer
> alloy am onto my 40 hole ma2 with thick, plain gauge spokes.
> it looks like it should be on a mo-ped.
> this guy has long experience building wheels. he's been a
> wheelbuilder since the 50's when he worked for claude butlers
> and holdsworth, and this is the way he said it should be done
> because of shock/stress when gears are changed in a hub gear,
> -a new one on me.
> he has said that if i want he'll re-build it with db spokes
> but that he won't guarentee the wheel.
> any thoughts?
> were hub gears usually built with thick plain gauge spokes?
> are there greater strains and stresses in a wheel with an
> internally geared hub?
> should i follow my aesthetic sense?
>
> simon bird
> london england
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