Re: [CR]Is it a Garin ..or a Remy?

(Example: History:Norris Lockley)

Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:23:59 +0100
From: "Freek Faro" <khun.freek@gmail.com>
To: "Norris Lockley" <norris.lockley@talktalk.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Is it a Garin ..or a Remy?
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Norris, I leafed through the book, and found a pic of a Remy headbadge. Indeed, oblong shape. if I can convince my pc that the scanner really is connected to it, I'll scan that pic! Most of the Remy bikes I've seen have a vertical decal on the headtube, saying 'Remy'. They probably changed to that in the 70s. Not far from me are some very old Remy's, one of them a track bike. The old ones have metal badges. The problem is they are so far stacked away in a pile of interesting bikes and frames (some of them make you drool), that it seems to much of a bother to take them out for pics.

Freek Faro Rotterdam Netherlands

2006/12/6, Norris Lockley <norris.lockley@talktalk.net>:
>
> Fascinating story about Wim Van Est's bike, from Freek...and it answers
> many as yet unanswered questions.
>
> there's a lot of contris in the CR archive about Van Est and a lot of
> speculation about his frames..and Garins.
>
> I bought a bike in France that I thought was a Garin..very fancy
> headlugs, not too disimilar from but not identical to those on Van Est's
> frame.
> At the time of the debate on the List..about two years ago, Oscar
> Cassander gave an internet site address that has pictures of Van Est.'s
> crashed bike.
>
> When I visited the site I noticed that the frame had a Garin headbadge,
> a small disc-shaped affair rivetted on to the headtube. My frame has no
> rivet holes..and is probably not a Garin.
>
> However, so good is the clarity of one of the photos that a second pair
> of drill holes , at much wider centres, can be seen.
>
> The question is..did Remy frames have a large metal headbadge with the
> rivet holes spaced well apart on a vertical axis?
>
> The link to the photos is:- http:home.wanadoo.nl/retropeugeot/Garin. The
> pictures are still displayed in all their glory.
>
> Norris Lockley..from a dreadfully wet Settle UK