Re: [CR]correct 1974 Colnago headbadge

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To: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>, Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com>, CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR]correct 1974 Colnago headbadge
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:26:06 +0000


Nice bike, Ray! My 74/73 orange super is identical in every respect to your blue super except that I have club cutouts in the fork tangs. Go figure, as they say. Roland Porter, Hinsdale, Illinois


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From: Raymond Dobbins

> Angel, the fork tangs on the blue Super had two holes each:
>
> http://www.raydobbins.com/supernew/photos/photo24.html
>
> I associate club cutouts in the fork tangs with slightly later frames, like my
> 78 Mexico Oro:
>
> http://www.raydobbins.com/mexicooro/photos/photo32.html
>
> I'm not sure how early these club cutouts appeared in fork tangs, but my guess
> is not before 76 or 77.
>
> Ray Dobbins
> Miami FL USA
>
>
>
> Angel Garcia wrote:
> I posted the note below some time ago. If you can access Ray Dobbin's photo
> of the Colnago that I'm referring that would be the ticket. I have the
> receipt of purchase so I know it's a 1975 or earlier (Colnago thought it was
> 1973 or 74).
> Angel Garcia
> Verona, IT
>
> "I have a nearly identical Colnago. Mine was purchased in Germany in
> January,
> 1976. Of course, it's not known how long it was in the window at the time of
> purchase but Colnago analyzed photos I sent them and they thought it was a
> 1973 or 1974. Mine is an unbuilt frame and fork in Molteni orange; even the
> same size as Ray's. These are some of the identical, and different features,
> I noted between mine and Ray Robbins:
>
> 1) headtube and seat tube decals are same (mine are black with a yet lighter
> orange outline) as are the lugs
> 2) the world championship bands are the same
> 3) my Columbus decal is different; it says Tubi Rinforzati Garantiti on one
> line above the red oval; Acciao Speciali with oval in between those words;
> the word Columbus below the oval. It's style appears to me to be more modern
> than that of Ray's bike.
> 4) The shape of the bottom of the club on my downtube lug is exactly the
> same shape is that of the ones on the fork; it has a slight curvature
> (downward). On Ray's, that lug has a straight bottom (which is different
> from the fork). Perhaps this is just an inconsistency in the creation rather
> than an indication of year.
> 5) Mine has clubs in the fork tangs (did not see a photo of Ray's in this
> area)
> 6) Mine has the #16. In the past I have discussed these numbers with
> e-richie and he didn't think they were a serial number. What do they mean?
>
> Angel Garcia
> Long Valley, NJ"
>
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