Alan, In London and the home counties we call them hack bikes. Tan Hill I remember them always had a fire burning in the great whatever time of the year. Ted Moult put those wretched Everest windows in it and advertised it on TV, remember the add? Now there is another mob that use the term bespoke window makers especially wooden replacement sash windows. Best wishes Joe. PS Hack bike is not be confused with work bike in these parts.
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:16:35 -0400, "Alan Gosley" <gosley@accesswave.ca>
said:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Gosley
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:05 AM
> Subject: Old Track ( Gash) Bike
>
>
> Norris said :
>
> ...but this frame is not a beater..or
> whatever you call a knocking-about-town bike.
>
>
> In the early '60s we used to call our beaters "gash" bikes. Usually a
> winter fixed to put the miles on, with mudguards and underslung brake,
> (I never saw a track in Yorkshire other than grass at the York Rally)
> a bike you wouldn't worry about throwing down the road when you came
> upon a well treed downhill with black ice on a winter club run.
>
> My Gash bike that I bought in '63 or '64 for 5 bob in York, is an old
> Claud Butler track , I thought it was '40s or '50s vintage but never knew
> exactly how old it was until joining the bike list and seeing John
> Crump's '37. I'm open to suggestions as to actual year. Mine has the
> identical lug work but instead of spearpoint seat stays mine has concave
> caps with a hole. it also has a welded seat brace support, the forks I
> had chromed in the '70s, I always thought were later vintage, but maybe
> not ? It came with a Chater Lea chainset, drop titan stem with alloy
> track bars, & Mansfield sprint saddle with alloy frame, no wheels! I
> remember riding home with it over my shoulder when I was 12 or so !
> I did have a set of L/F Chaters on Weinmanns for it, that I don't seem
> to be able to find now !
>
> Any guesses as to actual year?
>
> There seems to be two sets of numbers on the bb, one set raised & close
> together 650 or maybe 850, the second set stamped 1285 or 9 ( hard to
> see, as the frame was painted with bath tub paint back in the '70s ! )
>
> Also, my dad used to have a Bates BAR I believe the serial # was14213
> if anyone out there has it I would be interested to know, I have photos
> of it in battle, I believe it had copper plated ends .
>
> Cheers from frosty Nova Scotia (home
> of Keith's beer, not exactly Black
> Sheep Ale! )
>
> Alan
> Gosley
>
>
> ps Tan Hill, England's highest pub used to be a popular club run , I
> agree with Joe:
>
> "Beer and Bikes like it or not are
> forever linked."