RE: [CR]Corrections to the FS listing: 1972 Eisentrautframeset21&1/2"

(Example: Framebuilders:Pino Morroni)

From: "Bruce Gordon" <bgcycles@svn.net>
To: "'Michael Schmidt'" <mdschmidt@patmedia.net>, "'Peter Naiman'" <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>, "'classicrendezvous'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]Corrections to the FS listing: 1972 Eisentrautframeset21&1/2"
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:33:46 -0800
Organization: Bruce Gordon Cycles
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In-Reply-To: <C1A87868.1CE2%mdschmidt@patmedia.net>


What's rude about the truth!! Peter has almost corrected the facts. The frame is a NOT an Eisentraut. It is a Limited. The Downtube decals are wrong. The Seat Tube sticker that was on the frame originally said Limited - Made by Eisentraut Bicycles Inc. Calling the frame an Eisentraut is wrong. I told Peter that if he was sold it as a 1972 Eisentraut with that decal - he should return the bike to the shop that sold it to him, because it was that shop that lied to him.

Calling a Limited an Eisentraut is like calling a Honda an Acura, because they are both made by the same company. I apologize if this sounds rude - I just thought that a group who is so interested in minutia would like to know the truth. Again I am not calling Peter a liar or deceitful - he was just relaying misinformation that he received - the liar is the shop that sold it to him - be pissed at them. I'm not saying that it is not a good bike - it probably is, just Not an Eisentraut. It is a Limited (made by Eisentraut Bicycles Inc.) with the wrong decals.

Regards, Bruce Gordon (Former Vice President of Eisentraut Bicycles Inc from 1974 to 1976)

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Michael Schmidt Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:06 PM To: Peter Naiman; classicrendezvous Subject: Re: [CR]Corrections to the FS listing: 1972 Eisentrautframeset21&1/2"

Peter,

Does the frame come with a "Bruce Gordon was rude to me button?"

On 12/15/06 3:44 PM, "Peter Naiman" <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In light of Bruce Gordon's remarks posted below regarding the frame I've for
> sale, in making the corrections, I'll state clearly that the information I
> posted in my original sale advert was my understanding of the frame when I
> purchased it from a shop, with information provided by the owner to the shop
> owner upon my purchase. I was informed at the time that the frame was original
> finish, which Bruce having worked at Eisentraut informs me it's not. I never
> stated quality or model of frame, only that it is an Eisentraut from 1972, and
> I stand partially corrected in that Bruce "thinks" it might be 1975.
>
> Going on the fact that this is still avery nice vintage riding frame from
> the early to mid-70s, and an Eisentraut, I'm adjusting my asking price to $550
> or Best Offer.
>
> Peter Naiman
> Glendale, WI