Re: [CR]Copper plating 531 Steel frames and lugs

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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:59:26 -0500
From: "philip bailey" <bailey.philip@gmail.com>
To: "Charlie Young" <youngc@ptd.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Copper plating 531 Steel frames and lugs
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Charlie,

I saw that nice bike a while back. It looked more painted than a solid copper material finish which I showed on an earlier link and was thinking more about.

Look at the powder coated lugs below, the only detail and reason for 2 colors imo. A red frame with black lugs as link shows, or a white frame with red lugs seems nice (and no $200 pin stripping lugs). And as far as theft, they couldn't repaint as easy, although not too keen on leaving out for too long anywhere.

http://www.spectrumpowderworks.com/images/bp/bp214.jpg

A 1971 Raleigh Supercourse will never be too valuable and I have already started upgrading hyperglide technology wise. Safey, efficient exercise, and "steel is real" (for my weight) are my main concerns.

I like looking at all the nice bikes though, to give me ideas how to evolve my one and only bike.

Thanks, Phil Bailey Sarasota, FL

On 12/27/06, Charlie Young <youngc@ptd.net> wrote:
>
> Phil:
>
> I found Bob's blog entries that discuss his copper plated frame. Here's
> the link:
>
> http://bobbrowncycles.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_bobbrowncycles_archive.html
>
> Most of us take a dim view of powder coating due to the thickness hiding
> fine details on lugged bikes. Fine for a utilitarian cycle without crisp
> detailing though, I suppose.
>
> Charlie Young
> Honey Brook, PA
> USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* philip bailey <bailey.philip@gmail.com>
> *To:* Charles T. Young <youngc@ptd.net>
> *Cc:* classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:44 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [CR]Copper plating 531 Steel frames and lugs
>
>
> Thanks Charles,
>
> I saw Bob Brown's site reference to a powder coater and that looks
> interesting as well.
> Half the cost (at least!), robust paint, but once its on, it would be hard
> to change.
> Since its charged on metal, you almost have to 'grind' it off which is not
> good for thin steel structure.
>
> Other than that, I'd think powder coat may be the ticket. Just so long as
> good touchup spray, which
> they do have, it may be worth it for your last paint job. Red or white
> enamel paint with lots of clear coats
> may be hard to beat for all round cost/benefits though.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Phil Bailey
> Sarastota, FL
>
>
>
> On 12/25/06, Charles T. Young <youngc@ptd.net> wrote:
> >
> > Have a look at Bob Brown's handiwork:
> >
> > http://bobbrowncycles.netfirms.com/images/gallery/frame_cu1.jpg
> >
> > I'm sure he'd let you know who did the plating for him. I recall that
> > there
> > was a story line somewhere; perhaps on his blog site but I couldn't load
> > it
> > at the moment. Here is his main page:
> >
> > http://bobbrowncycles.netfirms.com/index.htm
> >
> > Charlie Young
> > Honey Brook, PA
> > USA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "philip bailey" <bailey.philip@gmail.com>
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 3:54 PM
> > Subject: [CR]Copper plating 531 Steel frames and lugs
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone know any (USA) vendors and/or any information about copper
> > > plating, like how destructive the plating process is to steel frames?
> > It
> > > looks like an optimum finish in several ways, but have only seen one
> > bike
> > > to
> > > date, so don't know why there aren't more.
> > >
> > > Thinking about leaving front and rear forks standard Raleigh chrome
> > plated
> > > to reduce additional metallurgical processes done to those frame
> > > components,
> > > and just buff frame down and clear coat.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Phil Bailey
> > > Sarasota, FL
> > >
> > >
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