Re: Jay Sexton [CR]seeking contact with any Australian listmember
HI Jay, I live in Sydney, Australia, though I'm not sure EBay stuff is really up my alley. Run it past me though and I'll see what I can do.
cheers
Michael McGrath
Sydney, Australia
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> 1. Re: Merckx Bike ??? on ebay (Angel Garcia)
> 2. Re: Campagnolo BB cups--which ones to use?
> 3. Re: Merckx Bike ??? on ebay (Derek Willburn)
> 4. RE: [CR ]Too many cogs / New Rules (Tory Werne)
> 5. seeking contact with any Australian listmember (Jay Sexton)
> 6. Frame builders (Tom Sanders)
> 7. WOODRUP FRAMES (Norris Lockley)
> 8. Re: Too many cogs (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos)
> 9. RE: Ebay Outing : Early 70's PX-10+extras, 54/56cm, $30 so far...
> (Ken Freeman)
> 10. RE: WOODRUP frames (Ken Freeman)
> 11. Re: frame builders (Doug Van Cleve) (Anthony Mezzatesta)
> 12. RE: Ebay Outing : Early 70's PX-10+extras, 54/56cm, $30 so far...
>
> 13. Help with Paramount Serial #'s (Nathan Cozzolino)
> 14. Re: Araldite bonded frames (John Betmanis)
> 15. Re: Woodrup Cycles (thestows)
>
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>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:09:47 -0500
>From: "Angel Garcia" <veronaman@gmail.com>
>To: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Merckx Bike ??? on ebay
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>The hour record bikes (there have been two photographed and discussed) both
>say Eddy Merckx on the downtubes.
>
>One was photographed at the The 100 Anni Di Corsa exhibition, Italy, March
>21-31, 2003. The other one is (or was) at a Brussels trainstop in a display
>case.
>
>Angel Garcia
>Verona, IT
>
>
>snip:As one that spent my teenage racing years with Eddy posters on my
>bedroom walls, sporting images of "The Cannibal" in yellow jersey atop
>orange de Rosas, Colnagos, etc. with downtubes that by then were always
>decaled EDDY MERCKX, and not the actual maker - (save for his early
>years, and the hour record bike, etc.) -- it was abit amusing to see an
>orange bike decaled de Rosa touted as "the same bike Eddy rode..."
>
>
>Bill Ungar
>Torrance, CA
>USA
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:16:36 EST
>From: Huemax@aol.com
>To: ternst1@cox.net, fred_rednor@yahoo.com, twerne@bellsouth.net,
> wickedsky@sbcglobal.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo BB cups--which ones to use?
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>In a message dated 12/29/06 2:05:04 PM, ternst1@cox.net writes:
>
>
>> Back in the late '50's and through into the "70's, we mixed and matched
>> many
>> spindle and cups untill we got the mating we needed for chainline and fi
t.
>> Not everything was available all the time so we made do.
>> Shops were around longer and the mechanics had better experience by and
>> large, so we'd see some clever stuff and did some ourselves, too.
>> The concern was to get the people out riding, The 101%
> > collecting/restoration was not so critical yet.
>>
>Hi Ted,
>
>This is EXACTLY my situation, I am thinking about using " thick CUP" on one
>side and use "thin"
>on the other side to line up chain line (because some spindle stick out too
>far on chain ring side),
>and I remeber using large WASHER to addition of B/B shell width if in case
>the cup did not go in.
>
>Anyway, thanks Ted Bare, and you Ted Ernst, I am having FUN and PAIN of
>restoring Cinelli
>and Legnano, Italian enginerring (so artistic and there is NO number and
>figures, not like German).
>I just have to collect several more dozens of cups and spindle pieces to FI
T
>and try!
>
>Regards to all CR members
>
>KEN TODA, High Point, NC, still like a spring weather 50's!
>
>
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>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:22:38 -0800 (PST)
>From: Derek Willburn <morganx9@yahoo.com>
>To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Merckx Bike ??? on ebay
>Message-ID: <613300.47004.qm@web32005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>I think Bill was refering to the Windsor decals that
>were put on just before Eddy's hour success -but I may
>be wrong.
>
>Derek Willburn
>Long Beach, CA USA
>
>--- Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The hour record bikes (there have been two
>> photographed and discussed) both
>> say Eddy Merckx on the downtubes.
>>
>> One was photographed at the The 100 Anni Di Corsa
>> exhibition, Italy, March
>> 21-31, 2003. The other one is (or was) at a Brussels
>> trainstop in a display
>> case.
>>
>> Angel Garcia
>> Verona, IT
>>
>>
>> snip:As one that spent my teenage racing years with
>> Eddy posters on my
>> bedroom walls, sporting images of "The Cannibal" in
>> yellow jersey atop
>> orange de Rosas, Colnagos, etc. with downtubes that
>> by then were always
>> decaled EDDY MERCKX, and not the actual maker -
>> (save for his early
>> years, and the hour record bike, etc.) -- it was
>> abit amusing to see an
>> orange bike decaled de Rosa touted as "the same bike
>> Eddy rode..."
>>
>>
>> Bill Ungar
>> Torrance, CA
>> USA
>>
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>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:35:41 -0500
>From: "Tory Werne" <twerne@bellsouth.net>
>To: "'Chuck Schmidt'" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>,
> "'CR RENDEZVOUS'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [CR]RE: [CR ]Too many cogs / New Rules
>Message-ID: <001e01c72b88$eb66d4c0$6600a8c0@WERNE1>
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>Chuck Schmidt wrote :
>
>I'm down to one and it don't freewheel.
>
>chuckschmidt
>spasadena,ca
>-------------
>
>Chuck and CR List :
>
>I have always enjoyed reading Chuck's posts.
>I am not confused by the appeal of fixed gear.
>I'm building up a 1949 as we speak.
>I have phenomenal respect for the generation of riders who were required
>to
>ride fixed.
>
>But in the spirit of global communication, and an homage to Bill Maher
>...
>
>NEW RULES
>Fixed Gear Riders should only quote their macho fixed-affection as
>follows :
>Chainring Teeth / Cog Teeth / Age of Rider / Elevation Changes You Ride
>!!!!
>
><insert grin-smiley-smirk here>
>
>Tory Werne
>Woodstock, Georgia USA
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:57:49 -0800
>From: Jay Sexton <jvs@sonic.net>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]seeking contact with any Australian listmember
>Message-ID: <4595814D.8060606@sonic.net>
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>Sorry for the general posting, but will one of our Australian
>listmembers get in touch with me please? I am hoping you might be
>able to help me with an Australian e-bay auction gone bad.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Jay Sexton
>Sebastopol, CA
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>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:00:24 -0500
>From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [CR]Frame builders
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>Jeez, Don't overlook Peter Mooney of Boston. Absolutely wonderful! Right
>up there at the top of the superb builders pantheon.
>Tom Sanders
>Lansing, Mi USA
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:12:47 -0000
>From: "Norris Lockley" <norris.lockley@talktalk.net>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [CR]WOODRUP FRAMES
>Message-ID: <000b01c72b8e$17e3bd60$65d8f159@049306920171>
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>As a rejoinder to my earlier Contri about Woodrup frames..and just in
>case I have whetted anyone's appetite to buy one ( I note Ian's thinking
>of adding one to his stable of Yorkshire-made mounts), I thought that a
>chance happening of earlier today might be of interest.
>
>This afternoon I had volunteered to taxi an old friend of mine to
>hospital where his elderly wife is seriously ill. Because I don't have a
>very good bedside manner on such occasions, I decide to spend the couple
>of hours of visiting time visiting a frame-builder/sprayer, near
>Bradford, who does the bulk the spraying on the few frames that I still
>build or repair.
>
>The guy is one of the few UK builders still building frames...very high
>quality.. in steel, many of which are bronze-welded. He admits that
>(unlike the case quoted with Richard Sachs and quite a few other
>American builders), he doesn't build many frames these days, but
>survives on repairs and resprays, trade-ins etc..and some low-level work
>for local bike shops.
>
>His workshop was like a cycle graveyard, with dozens of new Fondriest,
>Pinarello, Coppi steel frames hanging off the walls. ...frames that are
>almost unsellable in the UK these days. Elsewhere there was a large
>variety of other brands, some for respray, some for sale. In and amongst
>I spotted about half a dozen Woodrups....not surprising really as their
>shop is only a half-hour ride away.
>
>I cannot recall what sizes or models the frames were, but if anyone is
>interested I would be happy to give the builder a call. It might just be
>possible to get yourselves a bargain..and help my friend clear some
>stock at the same time.
>
>Norris Lockley, Settle UK
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:22:21 -0800 (PST)
>From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
>To: ternst <ternst1@cox.net>,
> Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>,
> CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Too many cogs
>Message-ID: <236873.96428.qm@web82215.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>Careful, Ted, compared to the Ergo shifter/10
>speed cassette/carbon fibre frame, rims, spokes,
>bars, stem and crank crowd, we're ALL Luddites
>here. Of course, most of that crowd don't know
>what Luddite means.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, TX
>
>
>
>ternst <ternst1@cox.net> wrote:
> Luddite.
>Ted Ernst
>Palos Verdes Estates
>CA USA
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chuck Schmidt"
>To: "CR RENDEZVOUS"
>Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:12 AM
>Subject: Re: [CR]Too many cogs
>
>
>> I'm down to one and it don't freewheel.
>>
>> chuckschmidt
>> spasadena,ca
>>
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2006, at 10:01 AM, George Argiris wrote:
>>
>>> I took 5 cogs off my record cassette, and filled the void with
>>> spacers.
>>> Freaks out the young.
>>>
>>>
>>> georgeargiris
>>> sandiego,ca
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Bob
>>> Hanson
>>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:41 AM
>>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>> Subject: [CR]Too many cogs
>>>
>>>
>>> An amusing subject which often comes up in discussions with both local
>>> bike mechanics and especially among younger cyclists who have known
>>> ONLY
>>> modern 8, 9, and now 10 speed cassettes.
>>>
>>> I'm probably just a bad rider, but I often find I forget to shift even
>>> when I should. It's sometimes just old habit that gets me off the
>>> saddle during climbs, when I really should just be saving my energy
>>> and
>>> using those additional gears which I sometimes forget are at my
>>> disposal. So, for me newfangled multi-multi-multi speed hubs are a
>>> waste.
>>>
>>> Yesterday, I had remembered and referred someone else to a splendid
>>> interview with betweenRivendell's Grant Petersen and Jobst Brandt
>>> who is
>>> an engineer, industrial designer, an avid cyclist who annually
>>> probably
>>> puts in mileage comparable to many Pro Racers, and moreover, is the
>>> author of "The Bicycle Wheel" book.
>>>
>>> Here is a brief excerpt from the interview which I think will be a
>>> delight to many like-minded curmudgeons among this group:
>>>
>>> =====================
>>>
>>> GP... Shifting? I have no idea what you ride, but I'd like to know
>>> what it is, and why. ErgoPower, STI, Campy downtubers?
>>>
>>> JB... I use downtube shifters (seldom) and use a 6-speed FW because
>>> 5-speeds are dead.
>>>
>>> GP... If 5-speeds were still available, would you ride them? And
>>> what do
>>> you mean seldom? Do you mean you seldom shift?
>>>
>>> JB... I mean I'm not preoccupied with always being in the optimum gear
>>> or following some unwritten precepts on cadence and the like. I ride a
>>> gear that's about right and leave it at that. I'm not moved by the
>>> admonitions that I will ruin my knees because I'm not turning 120 rpm.
>>> I've ridden too far to believe that. The range of gears hasn't changed
> >> much in the last 50 years, only the number of gears in that range. I
>>> don't believe that they are useful, necessary, or and good for the
>>> design of the rear wheel. Five or six is plenty, nine is gratuitous
>>> hardware and multiple redundancy.
>>>
>>> ====================
>>>
>>> I truly love that final sentence.
>>>
>>> Brandt's frequent comments on numerous discussion groups are a joy to
>>> read. He comes off as both the most infuriatingly pompous,
>>> opinionated,
>>> individual one can possibly imagine, and at the same time (to my mind)
>>> the most well spoken and witty writer I can think of.
>>>
>>> Here is a link to the complete interview:
>>>
>>> http://web.archive.org/
>>> docs/jo
>>> b
>>> st.html
>>>
>>> And, here is also a website which shows photos from some of the
>>> vacations which he has now taken annually... since 1960... a bicycle
>>> tour through the Alps, often on roads which still look like the White
>>> Roads of L'Eroica.
>>>
>>> http://www.trentobike.org/
>>> Tour_of_the_Alps/
>>>
>>>
>>> Good reading and viewing for today ~ yet another (very uncommon) snowy
>>> day in Albuquerque.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
>>>
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>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:41:39 -0500
>From: "Ken Freeman" <freesound@comcast.net>
>To: "'Jerome & Elizabeth Moos'" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>,
> "'Donald Gillies'" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: RE: [CR]Ebay Outing : Early 70's PX-10+extras, 54/56cm, $30 so far
...
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>I agree with Jerry, the rack is an aftermarket Pletcher, a classic
>accessory, and the original wheels for a PX-10 were the Normandy hubs he ha
s
>with 700C tubular rims. I recall Mavic Montlery, but I suppose there could
>have been others as well.
>
>Ken Freeman
>Ann Arbor, MI
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>[mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Jerome &
>Elizabeth Moos
>Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:50 AM
>To: Donald Gillies; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Outing : Early 70's PX-10+extras, 54/56cm, $30 so
>far...
>
>Don't think it is a touring version. I suspect the clincher wheels and rac
k
>are not original, though possibly period. BTW, I'm 99% sure the Strongligh
t
>crank is NOT model 63 as stated, but the much more common model 93.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, Tx
>
>
>
>
>Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
> http://ebay.com/
>
>wow, the bike is all original, with good paint, and the auction includes
>MANY extras including just about every tool you would buy to maintain this
>bike in ~1970 (i.e. stronglight pullers, campag cone wrenches, t-wrench, 3r
d
>hand, cyclo chain tool, even 'Richard's Bicycle Book' (a good 70's book),
>and the 'Clear Creek Bicycle Book'
>to get you in that 70's mood ...)
>
>Bike has 27" clinchers and Lyotard 45 pedals, perhaps a touring version of
>the PX-10 ?? Or maybe not completely original, i'm no PX-10 expert.
>
>Shipping is a semi-reasonable $60 for an iSoldIt type of place ...
>
>- Don Gillies
>San Diego, CA
>_______________________________________________
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:49:18 -0500
>From: "Ken Freeman" <freesound@comcast.net>
>To: "'Norris Lockley'" <norris.lockley@talktalk.net>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: RE: [CR]WOODRUP frames
>Message-ID: <000501c72b93$32dc6540$6401a8c0@maincomputer>
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>Though it is not a major issue, Norris may be misinterpreting my comment
>about my Giro's paint. I got the frame from Ebay a year ago, not from a US
>dealer 26 years ago. I said my paint needs help, not that it was poorly
>done. I have no idea how well it was done originally and no reason eto
>doubt its quality, but now it shows signs of age and abuse. I meant no
>criticism of the Woodrup shop or its processes.
>
>I may have seen other 26 year old frames that could stand some paint work.
>
>Ken Freeman
>Ann Arbor, MI USA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>[mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Norris Lockley
>Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:23 PM
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]WOODRUP frames
>
>First of all a profound apology for not repying to Robin's email off-List
>about his Woodrup frame. I think it had just arrived when the server I use
>had problems with sending and receiving emails for about six days..It's in
>there somewhere Robin..sorry about that oversight.
>
>As to Woodrup's...First of all I must explain that what follows is based on
>the opinions I have heard voiced by perhaps several hundred cyclists in and
>around the west Yorkshire area, in which Woodrup's are based..on Kirkstall
>Road, Leeds.. There will be some slight element of my own opinion also, as
I
>have known the Woodrup shop..and the late Maurice Woodrup for about five
>decades..similarly I have known all the other Yorkshire builders for the
>same period of time.
>
>Possibly because Bob Jackson's business seemed so much bigger than Maurice
>Woodrup's, because Bob had glossier catalogues and did everything
>in-house..even spraying, Bob's company's frames was perceived as being
>less..let us say ..bespoke..or custom-built. This last statement is of
>course far from true..but many club cyclists..the stock-in-trade of the UK
>lightweight trade, just perceived it as being so.
>
>Bob always had more builders working on frames..I think five was the highes
t
>that I can recall..whereas I dont remember Maurice having more than two..an
d
>possibly a bit of part-time help when business was busy.
>Whatever the reason..Woodrup's was always perceived to produce the better
>quality frame, probably because their production was much smaller, and
>customers assumed that far more time was spent on each frame.
>
>I have sold quite a lot of S/H Woodrups..and probably more Jacksons..and
>Pennine's, Briggs etc etc. My own impression was that Woodrups had the edge
>over Jacksons..perhaps just a little more attention to detail..more
>individualised treatment etc etc..but I have handled some excellent Jackson
s
>too.
>
>I have been inside both workshops when they were in full swing, and have
>been surprised by some of the "processes" that I have seen..things that I
>did not expect..slight heavy-handedness, but maybe that it a common feature
>of the majority of frame-shops.
>
>Bob had a faster turn over of builders and, of course, had more novice
>builders...but there again his foreman builder spent his lifetime with
>Jackson. A commonly heard opinion anywhere where cyclists congregate in
>Yorkshire is that some Jacksons disappoint ,but that the best ones are the
>equal of the best hand-built frames regardless of country and company..an
>opinion giving the impression that there were different standards of build
>quality at Jacko's. On the other hand in the same congregations of
>cyclists..there is seldom an adverse criticism of Woodrup's quality. In fac
t
>in those five decades I have only met one cyclist who was disappointed with
>his Woodrup, but My My..was he disappointed..no half measures..and it was
>all down to dreadful threads in the bottom bracket and a badly aligned rear
>triangle.
>
>It is interesting to read the two contris so far about Woodrup frames, both
>stating that the paintwork could have been better. As far as I recall...for
>a long long time all Woodrups were sprayed by Ellis-Briggs, but there was a
>period in the early 80s to mid-80s when some of them were sprayed elsewhere
>in Leeds, by a part-time sprayer, at a time when Briggs' turn-around times
>were far too long...so in fact Woodrups' were never totally in charge of
>that aspect of the quality of the finished frame.
>
>Just for what it's worth...I never heard an adverse criticism of an
>Ellis-Briggs frame either..so the scenario in the Leeds-Bradford was that i
f
>you wanted the best,,clearly a very subjective word. you went to either one
>or the other of Woodrup or Briggs. Additionally for what it's worth...I
>think that the opinions also depended very largely on of which club you
>were a member. As as is the case even today..certain clubs were linked with
>certain builders...often due to geographical circumstances.
>
>Hope that has helped you, Rob. If you continue to have problems with
>Woodrup's about transfers, I will see what I can do to get some for you...
>as the shop is only an hour or so down the road.
>
>Norris Lockley...Settle UK
>
>_______________________________________________
>
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>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:51:21 -0500
>From: "Anthony Mezzatesta" <mezzbike1@zoominternet.net>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [CR]Re: frame builders (Doug Van Cleve)
>Message-ID: <007c01c72b93$7a2c77f0$021919ac@mezzatesb64hnn>
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>Hi Gang,
>What about this old timer?
>Happy New Year!
>Anthony Mezzatesta
>Mezzatesta Custom Cycles
>909 Berkley Manor Dr.
>Cranberry Twp, Pa 16066
>724 498 4191
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:49:54 EST
>From: IKersey@aol.com
>To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: RE: [CR]Ebay Outing : Early 70's PX-10+extras, 54/56cm, $30 so far
...
>
>Message-ID: <c48.8d62e2c.32c6f592@aol.com>
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>
>Looks like a Stronglight Super Competition 93 crankset to me -- probably ju
st
>a typo in the eBay ad.
>
>Extracts from the '74 US catalog for the Peugeot PX 10 E:
>
>"Pedals: Lyotard 45 CA with reflectors" (the one's on the eBay bike appear
>to be Lyotard 460's)
>
>"UX-10 - Same model as PX 10 E, however, with tires 27 x 1 1/4 and tubes wi
th
>Schraeder valves." (no mention of the rims' manufacturer, though)
>
>A handsome enough bike, IMHO, in spite of the rack and kick stand.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Ian Kersey
>Williamsburg, Virginia
>USA
>(formerly part of the Powhatan Confederation, Virginia Company, British
>Empire, and CSA)
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:58:54 +0000
>From: "Nathan Cozzolino" <cozzolino77@hotmail.com>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]Help with Paramount Serial #'s
>Message-ID: <BAY104-F2364A5885A437D09156D6EA8C60@phx.gbl>
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>
>...I've been trying to use an online guide I found to date a Paramount I
>just acquired, and to no avail. Can someone tell me what "H710" indicates?
>
>Thanks,
>Nathan Cozzolino
>SF, CA
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:33:07 -0500
>From: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Araldite bonded frames
>Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20061229193307.00848db0@mailhost.oxford.net>
>In-Reply-To: <000b01c72b73$fc4d3460$89ca6851@nonefpfvwek4mv>
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>
>Just so everyone else knows, "Araldite" is a British brand of epoxy.
>
>John Betmanis
>Woodstock, Ontario
>Canada
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>
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:39:48 -0500
>From: "thestows" <thestows@alltel.net>
>To: "Rob Williams" <rwynw@comcast.net>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Woodrup Cycles
>Message-ID: <007c01c72bab$0a469bb0$01fea8c0@customersi1sy1>
>References: <001c01c72b06$58dfd250$6500a8c0@treeinspector>
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>
>Since many have put comments in I'll add my two cents.
>
>I have a Giro Tour Woodrup a 1983 model. I purchased it at the first Cirque
>du Cyclisme
>
>in Greensboro. I loved the ride and decided to have it "fixed up". The
>frame had some rust
>
>and the shifter was made for the down tube top mount Suntour shifters. I wa
s
>in Arizona and
>
>stopped at Tempe Cycles and talked to Colin Lang. He suggested I contact
>Woodrup
>
>Using the address in the book (and I hope the title is close) "Custom
>Cycles" I wrote them
>
>and to shorten the story; the bike was sent to them reworked. rechromed,
>repainted, decaled and returned
>
>They sent pictures of the rework as requested and this was a great
>experience. Maurice's son had taken
>
>over and I corresponded with his Granddaughter. They where very helpful.
>
>They have a web page.
>
>http://www.woodrupcycles.com/ with a contact link.
>
>
>
>David Stow
>
>Cornelia Ga
>
>USA.
>
>
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>
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>
>
>End of Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 48, Issue 122
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