Re: [CR]Hetchins on eBay

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli:Laser)

Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:41:23 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Michael Butler" <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CR]Hetchins on eBay
To: nelson miller <nelsmiller@msn.com>
In-Reply-To: <BAY111-DAV885053FD76387DB524CA2C2F10@phx.gbl>
cc: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Hello Nelson. Crying shame some of your American woman cyclist's didn't eat British food if they had they might have won as many World titles as Beryl. Thinking of this that goes for your chaps as well. This was on the subject of Hetchins frames but I have got to defend our food. There is nothing wrong with good British cooking it is some of the best in the world. Finally Alf normally ate Latkes, Kishka, Brisket & Kugel and Lockshen soup and pudding. Not normal British food but very East End London. Italian 50's to 80's bike design bellissimo. Just like Gina or Sophia loads upfront. Flash brash and showy but so much style and elegance and what a fashion statement, the Brits favourite's for oh so many years. Anyone want to swap a 50's Legano for a Curly please contact me off list. Be lucky and try our tomatoes, the only ones I ever tried in America were in Boston and they all tasted like paper, is this normal? Chin up Mick Butler Hunts. UK. P.S.After you with the Marmite please.

British fare--- nelson miller <nelsmiller@msn.com> wrote:
> Chuck, et al-----
>
> I guess that we can all be thankful the the British
> bikes aren't related
> to their food?
>
> Cheers---Nelson Miller--- Seattle, WA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chuck
> Schmidt<mailto:chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To:
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org<mailto:classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Hetchins on eBay
>
>
> Steve Maas wrote:
> >
> > I've spent the whole day trying to figure out
> how to answer this
> without
> > getting myself into a lot of trouble. I know,
> I'm getting
> perilously
> > close to national stereotyping, which is
> decidedly un-PC.
> Unfortunately,
> > I do believe that there is such a thing as
> national personality,
> which
> > is why I do so well with Scandinavians, whose
> national personality
> is
> > much like mine, and not so well with...well,
> others. In any case,
> > trouble is nothing new for me, for sure, but as
> I descend into old
> > farthood, I do try to mellow out and behave
> myself. Doesn't always
> > work, but I try.
> >
> > Let's just say this: I don't see anything in my
> Colnagos, for
> example,
> > that tells me a thing about the charming,
> easygoing dysfunctionality
> > that was Italian society in the 60s and 70s,
> extending into today.
> (The
> > same dysfunctionality, I might add, that has
> given Alitalia and
> Malpensa
> > airport a 100% success rate at losing my luggage
> on flights into
> Milan.)
> > They're nice bikes, of course. But they don't
> tell me anything about
> the
> > times and people that produced them. British
> bikes do. French do
> too,
> > although maybe not quite so profoundly.
> >
> > Do they for you? I'd like to hear how. In fact,
> I'd like to hear any
> > comments on the history and culture of a people,
> and how it is
> reflected
> > in the bicycles they built. That would be a
> welcome relief from the
> > tiresome stuff about racing, TDF,
> Paris-Brest-etc., and technobabble
> > about frame stiffness.
> >
> > Uh-oh. I think I got myself into trouble again.
> Dang! Gotta stop
> doing
> > that.
> >
> > Or, maybe not....
> >
> > Steve Maas
> > Long Beach, California, US of A
>
>
> I'm a designer (taught at Art Center College of
> Design in Pasadena for
> 10 years). Italians are known worldwide for being
> unsurpassed as
> designers and this is what I see in their frames
> and parts.
> Unsurpassed
> industrial design. Giants! That's their history
> and culture and it's
> clearly reflected in their bicycles (to me at
> least). They provided
> the
> source of inspiration for most of the US frame
> builders in the early
> 1970s I'd add.
>
> Italian passion...
>
> Maybe someone else could explain it better?
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, Southern California
>
> .
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Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.

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