Re: [CR]For sale; Vintage items for sale on Ebay.

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:11:41 -0500
To: CR Mailing List <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
From: "George Allen" <jgallen@lexairinc.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]For sale; Vintage items for sale on Ebay.


Joe,

That is my stem and stem/bar combo Peter had on E-bay. I sent it to him along with at least 75 other items to sell because I had neither the time nor inclination to sell them myself. I gave him a list of the items with descriptions. Unfortunately, I did not provide dating for the stems/bars in question. I know both are mid-1970's vintage and almost certainly came off a Raleigh, probably an International. I take total responsibility for not providing the correct dating. They are my items and thus my responsibility. I have requested of Peter to offer to cancel the transaction with no cost to the buyer. When one is selling a large number of items, like Peter or many other list-members, it is inevitable that honest mistakes will be made. It's nearly impossible to be an expert on everything bike-related and impractical to get an expert opinion on every item in large lots for sale. I am certain that Peter did not intentionally wish to mislead anyone. I have had numerous dealings with him and all were strictly aboveboard. I have absolutely no doubts about his honesty or integrity.

George Allen Lexington, Ky

At 02:00 AM 2/10/2006, joebz@optonline.net wrote:
>I have really had it with Peter Naiman and his questionable
>assertions, mishandled deals etc. With respect to Ebay auction
>7218410328 I questioned if this GB allen key stem was a 50's part
>and what his basis for the claim was. He replied "If you want to
>make a civil comment, fine. But negative crap I won't put up with. "
>
> As I see these things come up from now on, in whatever context,
> I'm going to call them like I see them to the list. Please feel
> free to email me with any Peter Naiman deals you know of concerning
> questionable assertions, possibly uncompleted deals etc.
>
>For starters Peter, tell us about Ebay auction 7218392943 and your
>basis that this stem is from the 1950's?
>
>Joe Bender-Zanoni
>Great Notch, NJ
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>
>Date: Thursday, February 9, 2006 10:24 pm
>Subject: [CR]For sale; Vintage items for sale on Ebay.
>
> > I've listed about 35+ items for sale on Ebay for a freind and
> > fellow CR List member. A few just started on delayed auction
> > tonight and the other started on Tuesday night. I will accept
> > Paypal on all auctions. The buyer will pay all shipping and
> > insurance. I'm not the most knowledgeable about all the different
> > generations of Campagnolo, so if you spot an error in one of my
> > listings, please write offlist and I will correct the error.
> >
> > There is a wide variety of Campy items, Cinelli bars and other
> > goodies.
> >
> > To view my listing you can click onto the URL below or look up my
> > auctions under my Ebay handle, hetchinspete.
> >
> > http://ebay.com/<blah>
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Peter Naiman
> > Glendale, WI
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>
>Date: Thursday, February 9, 2006 10:24 pm
>Subject: [CR]For sale; Vintage items for sale on Ebay.
>
> > I've listed about 35+ items for sale on Ebay for a freind and
> > fellow CR List member. A few just started on delayed auction
> > tonight and the other started on Tuesday night. I will accept
> > Paypal on all auctions. The buyer will pay all shipping and
> > insurance. I'm not the most knowledgeable about all the different
> > generations of Campagnolo, so if you spot an error in one of my
> > listings, please write offlist and I will correct the error.
> >
> > There is a wide variety of Campy items, Cinelli bars and other
> > goodies.
> >
> > To view my listing you can click onto the URL below or look up my
> > auctions under my Ebay handle, hetchinspete.
> >
> > http://ebay.com/<blah>
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Peter Naiman
> > Glendale, WI