I have found with the universal type--those that lock onto either side of the fixed cup--there's one called a universal and another made by Kingsbidg e (the one I currently have)-- (jeez, I am getting parenthentical statements within parethetical statemens set off by dashes)--that the fixed cup must b e absolutely free of grease and oil, dry. The Kingsbridge one, slightly longer than the Universal one, with a couple of cheater bars rigged to the wrenches has never failed to get one out, though it has come close to popping a cerebral vein.
For whatever my experience is worth,
Tom Hayes Chagrin Falls, Ohio 55 degrees today
On 2/15/06, John Thompson <JohnThompson@new.rr.com> wrote:
>
> jimmy katynski wrote:
>
> > Alot of talk has been floating around about a good bb fixed cup
> > removal tool. I have one made by Joe Bringheli of Parma Ohio. This is
> > a very heavy duty tool and hasent seen a bb fixed cup it wasnt able to
> > remove yet. There is a picture at
> > http://www.wooljersey.com/
>
> That one looks to be based on the VAR and Campy fixed cup tools and
> should work just as well -- as long as your fixed cup is one of the
> standard types for which the tool's jaw is designed. The problem with
> these is that if you have an odd-ball cup (e.g. the fixed cup on my
> Atala: http://www.os2.dhs.org/
> stuck, and so is the cup. :-(
>
> I've tried valiantly to remove this cup, but it resists all my efforts.
> I even made a Stein-type "squeeze" universal fixed cups tools (e.g.
>
> http://www.biketoolsetc.com/
> )
> but it was unable to grip tightly enough, even with a monster wrench and
> bench-mounted vise. In desperation I took it to my LBS (the first time
> in about 20 years I've let someone else work on one of my bikes!) and
> they failed as well with heat/cold/monster wrenches, young, tough guys
> pulling on them, etc. So there it sits, while the Italian thread Campy
> BB I wanted to use gathers dust.
>
> --
> John (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
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Tom Hayes
Chagrin Falls, Ohio