> Pete Geurds wrote:
>
>>I'm wondering if you guys tried this on those tough fixed cups?
>> http://sheldonbrown.com/
>>
>>Hasn't failed me yet on those old Raleigh cups.
>>Can sound like a gunshot when the cup does come loose though.
>>(acompanied by a quick flash of oh my gosh the frame broke!)
>
I tried this, with precisely the setup on Sheldon's site. It provided a very good grip on the cup, and I think that, in most cases, it would work. But even with an 18" socket wrench handle, it still wasn't enough to loosen the cup of my mid-50s Olmo. The the bolt slipped, and I was afraid of gouging something, so I stopped. However, the bolt plus a little heat from a propane torch did the trick. Still took a lot of effort, but it came off.
Steve Maas
Long Beach, California