[CR]re: riv lugs

(Example: Bike Shops)

From: "C. Andrews" <chasds@mindspring.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:34:51 -0800
Subject: [CR]re: riv lugs

Mark Stonich and then Joe Starck wrote:

Grants lugs look like they were designed by a
> committee, or came from
> 3 different sets. Hardly hideous, but with awkward
> transitions and
> no coherent theme. Don't let me get started on that
> fork
> crown. Acceptable on a lesser bike, but not worthy
> of the
> craftsmanship lavished on the bikes by Curt and
> painter Joe Bell.

http://rivendellbicycles.com/html/membership_rivendell39.html Mark, Look at the photo of the head lugs and fork crown. Your words above cannot possibly follow. Ol' Grantersen has a beautiful bike there, with the cream

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All depends on who's lookin'. To me, Mark's words are exactly right. Even charitable. To Joe, they're not. This kind of thing distills down to "I think this is second-rate amateur work" or "I think this is beautiful, original, thinking about lugs." I'm with the first statement and with Mark Stonich, and for what I think are perfectly legitimate reasons. Joe disagrees. For Joe to accuse Mark, or anyone else, of being pea-brained for not liking Grant's lug design (and for saying so in a clear way, with reasons) is just worthless ad-hominem attack.

I have a custom Riv, and I'll probably keep it, but I'll always wish I'd had the Sachs lugs put on it. So it goes. The fancy-lugged Carpenter will make me feel better. It's what a fancy-lugged frame should look like--as is something like a fancy Hurlow. Grant would have done well to spend a couple of months contemplating a vintage Hurlow--or an Ephgrave--with the most florid lugs before he even put pencil to paper. Imho.

Charles Andrews SoCal

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