[CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 39, Issue 12

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From: "Marcelo Afornali - Bicicletas Antigas" <afornali@bicicletasantigas.com.br>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:33:36 -0300
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Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 39, Issue 12

Please, open links...

Best Regards

Marcelo

http://www.bicicletasantigas.com.br/arquivos/portal/galeria/fotos/entrevistatv28-02-2006-ric.wmv

http://www.bicicletasantigas.com.br/arquivos/portal/galeria/fotos/entrevistamarcelo19-11-2005.wmv

http://www.bicicletasantigas.com.br/arquivos/portal/galeria/fotos/entrevistastv.wmv


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> 1. Re: and speaking of chrome Galmozzi
> 2. Re: Caution! Look closely at the chrome Paramount item
> #7223752937 being offered on E-Bay (Phil Sieg)
> 3. Re: help id mystery tandem? (Eugene Powell)
> 4. Re: Callling Bill Roberts
> 5. Re: Re: Callling Bill Roberts
> 6. re: Calling Bill Roberts! (Peter Brown)
> 7. RE: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 31, Issue 109
> (Clarence Kokkinis)
> 8. Re: Cyclists Special documentary----(Reynolds shoes) and SARTOR
> jackets (Peter Jourdain)
> 9. Was: Caution! Look closely ... Now: scams
> 10. Re: Cyclists Special documentary----(Reynolds shoes) and SARTOR
> jackets (Michael Butler)
> 11. Alma Mich wood rim (Philip Easton)
> 12. Re: Head Badge ID from Bikebrothers film? (Duncan Granger)
> (Michael Butler)
> 13. Wanted: Paletti Frame Decals (Brett Horton)
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> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:52:22 +0000
> From: hersefan@comcast.net
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]and speaking of chrome Galmozzi
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> Yes I have.
>
> A gorgeous 50's I assume track bike that was wonderfully built. In one of
> my major blunders, I missed purchasing it at the Cirque a few years back.
> If only I hadn't looked down at the bike one more time in hesitation...
>
> I'm sure Aldo can picture this - for he was the wiser man that day.
>
> Mike Kone in Boulder CO
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "aldoross4" <aldoross4@siscom.net>
>
>> Anyone have (or seen) an all-chrome Galmozzi, any style or
>> era?
>>
>> Aldo Ross
>> Middletown, Ohio
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message Follows -----
>> From: "Joel flood"
>> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: Spam:****, [CR] Ebay outing- Bianchi front hub,
>> Stronglight mod 57, Simplex lj23 on Ebay
>> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:58:02 -0500
>>
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>> > my own items, looking to clear out some room of stuff I
>> > cannot use. sorry for the self promotion.
>> > on ebay-
>> > Bianchi front 3 piece hub-
>> >
>> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>> >
>> > Stronglight Mod. 57 crankset-
>> >
>> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>> >
>> > Simplex lj23 front derailleur-
>> >
>> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>> >
>> > I will offer free shipping with tracking to any CR members
>> > , please inform me after purchasing so i know of course.
>> > thanks
>> > joel flood
>> > philadelphia, PA
>> > _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:58:37 -0500
> From: Phil Sieg <triodelover@comcast.net>
> To: Tom Sanders <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: 'Jerome & Elizabeth Moos' <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Caution! Look closely at the chrome Paramount item
> #7223752937 being offered on E-Bay
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> Jeez, Mr Barnum was right. One of the bidders has a feedback rating
> near 300. I guess the lure of something for nothing proves irresistible
> to some.
>
> Tom Sanders wrote:
>
>> Sadly, it is still up even after three folks have reported it to
>> E-Bay and it now has two bidders.
>> Tom
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Phil Sieg [mailto:triodelover@comcast.net]
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 03, 2006 10:54 AM
>> *To:* Jerome & Elizabeth Moos
>> *Cc:* Tom Sanders; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [CR]Caution! Look closely at the chrome Paramount item
>> #7223752937 being offered on E-Bay
>>
>> Jerry et al,
>>
>> Most of these hijacks we have outed have been fairly obvious. All
>> have a couple of things in common:
>>
>> * low- or no-feedback seller
>> * one-day auctions
>> * payment by direct wire transfer.
>>
>> In addition, discrepancies about the location of the seller and
>> location of the item have been noted. Yesterday Peter's rip-off was
>> in China. Today's seller has a UK e-mail addy while selling a bike in
>> Oklahoma.
>>
>> One more thing they have in common is their general incompetence as
>> con artists. Who gets taken in by these, anyway? I doubt it would
>> pass the smell test for even a moderately web-savvy teenager. It's
>> not like the costume jewelry con profiled in the NY times a couple of
>> weeks back.
>>
>> Most legitimate new sellers in our area of interest that I've noted
>> lately tend to run their auctions for the usual 5 to 7 days. Most
>> have gotten hip to Paypal, although a few Luddites remain. And most
>> start out small, for the very reason you point out - they need to
>> build up feedback. People will take a chance more readily on a $25
>> item - or even a $100 one - than they will when things move into four
>> figures.
>>
>> FWIW, I think extensive positive feedback as a buyer would provide
>> reassurance to most people.
>>
>> Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
>>
>>>More likely someone hijacked John's auction. This kind of thing is
>>>getting out of hand on eBay. The sad thing is, what is a legitimate new
>>>seller to do? If you have not yet established feedback, lots of buyers
>>>will avoid you, suspecting you are one of these crooks. Since I never
>>>sell on eBay, I suppose if I did, no one would bid except maybe list
>>>members, unless my extensive feedback as a buyer were enough to reassure
>>>bidders. And those entirely new to eBay don't even have that. Too bad a
>>>few crooks have to screw things up for so many others, but I guess that
>>>story is as old as the human race.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jerry Moos
>>> Big Spring, TX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Phil Sieg
>> Knoxville, Tennessee
>
>
> --
> Phil Sieg
> Knoxville, Tennessee
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:53:09 -0800
> From: Eugene Powell <radfin@SpiritOne.com>
> To: Fred Rafael Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]help id mystery tandem?
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> Hey Joel,
>
> My guess is.........................
>
> French, possibly Follis, re-fitted and re-finished. Odd to see a french
> tandem with campy drop-outs................... Hmmmmmmm
>
> My Follis has cantilevers, but didn't originally. They were added later
> causing the seamed seatstays to split. Dave Feldman did a great job of
> replacing same stays with nice beefy Dedacciai seatstays and Campy 1010
> drops. Some restoration-repair-reorientation of the braze-ons was also
> done.
>
> Good luck
>
> On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:04 PM, Fred Rafael Rednor wrote:
>
>> To me, this bike appears to be French-but-not-LeJeune. Then
>> again, the fork looks identical to the one on my LeJeune. Then
>> again, many of these French bikes were made by subcontractors,
>> so perhaps there was one atelier turning out nothing but tandem
>> forks? The headset looks like the Bardon (?) unit that's on
>> almost every old French tandem I've seen. Also, the blue part
>> of the paint job can't be original, can it?
>>
>> Most importantly, the serial number looks as if it was
>> imprinted by a firm that was serious about this sort of thing.
>> On French tandems from smaller manufacturers, the serial number
>> was clearly an afterthought, if it was on the frame at all. So
>> I have to _guess_ it's a Motobecane. Then again, every
>> Motobecane (or LeJeune or Urago) tandem I've seen had MAFAC
>> cantilever brakes without such beautiful mounting bosses as on
>> this bicycle.
>>
>> So that probably doesn't help much. I suppose you'll _have_ to
>> pull the cranks to check the BB threading... (If you've read
>> this far, just imagine that I've pursed my lips and I'm
>> shrugging my shoulders in that special French way.)
>> Best regards,
>> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
>>
>> --- joel metz <magpie@blackbirdsf.org> wrote:
>>
>>> this bike has its current owners stumped... so i took a bunch
>>> of
>>> pictures in hopes that someone here might be able to help...
>>>
>>> it says "early 80s" to me, *maybe* late 70s.
>>> oversize tandem headset.
>>> 531 tubeset.
>>> ovalized boom/boob/whatever tube.
>>> back-and-forth purple/red fade paint may or may not be
>>> original - i
>>> tend to think it is.
>>> serial # on stoker bb shell (see pics).
>>> seatstay caps appear to be cut and squashed (sorry for the
>>> bad pic -
>>> my cameras screen cut out about at this point, so i was
>>> shooting
>>> somewhat blind.
>>> double plate fork crown.
>>> entirely fillet brazed, smallish fillets.
>>> parts mix - suntour pedals, front der, shifters. weinmann
>>> centerpulls, ta crankset. huret rear der. specialized tandem
>>> hubs
>>> wilh non-drive drum threading.
>>> brazed-on centerpull bosses.
>>>
>>> there are parts that say "british" or "french" to me, but
>>> something
>>> overall about it says "american". just a gut feeling, but im
>>> hardly a
>>> tandem expert.
>>>
>>> i dont know frame sizes, seatpost sizes, or threadings,
>>> unfortunately, but i could probably find out if need be.
>>>
>>> pics at http://www.blackbirdsf.org/tandem/
>>>
>>> questions? need more pics? just ask, and ill get em as fast
>>> as i can...
>>>
>>> thanks for any help anyone can provide!
>>>
>>> i love a bike mystery... :)
>>>
>>> -joel
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org :
>>> http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
>>> bike messengers worldwide : ifbma :
>>> http://www.messengers.org/
>>> portland, oregon
>>> ==
>>> i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't
>>> there,
>>> after she got that
>>> bicycle...
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
> Gene Powell
> Rad Finishes
> Portland, OR
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:12:04 -0500
> From: oroboyz@aol.com
> To: velodoug2004@yahoo.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: Callling Bill Roberts
> Message-ID: <8C80CFCBA68C299-6C8-4281@FWM-D02.sysops.aol.com>
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> Hmmm.
>
> Well, this is an interesting turn of events..
>
> Three people on the list (so far) have voiced difficulties with Bill
> Roberts. This is odd, as he earliers complained to me of CR folks being
> difficult!
>
> Needless to say, more info needs to be forthcoming but I do urge
> everyoneto exercise caution in their business dealings...
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, NC USA
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Wagner <velodoug2004@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:51:49 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: [CR]Re: Callling Bill Roberts
>
> Fellow CR members:
> I have had the same disappointing experience with Bill Roberts.
> Prompt payment
> from me in December and January...excuses and now no reply to my
> e-mails to him.
> Never sent me anything I paid for(.Motobecane badge, decals & simplex
> DT boss)
> Anyone foolish enough to do business with him should insist on paying
> only COD.
> Doug Wagner
> Richmond,KY
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> _______________________________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:13:24 -0500
> From: loudeeter@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Callling Bill Roberts
> Message-ID: <8C80CFCE9D9DFC9-1228-EAC4@mblk-r33.sysops.aol.com>
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> First of all, I don't like public lashings. If you have a problem with a
> listmember, even if the problems are because he posted something on CR,
> then take it up with the List Meister, Dale. Regarding Bill Roberts, I've
> had several business dealings with him, one within the past month. I had
> no problems with these deals and would welcome his business again. Lou
> Deeter, Orlando FL
>
>
> "If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Wagner <velodoug2004@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:51:49 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: [CR]Re: Callling Bill Roberts
>
>
> Fellow CR members:
> I have had the same disappointing experience with Bill Roberts. Prompt
> payment
> from me in December and January...excuses and now no reply to my e-mails
> to him.
> Never sent me anything I paid for(.Motobecane badge, decals & simplex DT
> boss)
> Anyone foolish enough to do business with him should insist on paying only
> COD.
> Doug Wagner
> Richmond,KY
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> _______________________________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:16:17 -0000
> From: "Peter Brown" <peterg.brown@ntlworld.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]re: Calling Bill Roberts!
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> So by my count I must be the fourth CR list member taken in by Bill
> Roberts,
> at least. Payment by paypal 4 weeks ago for an item offered on CR list,
> and
> nothing since. Not a large amount involved, but I would like to think I
> could trust all CR list members in the same way that they can trust me.
> Is
> there any collective action we can take?
>
>
>
> Peter Brown, Lincolnshire, England
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:14:15 -0500
> From: "Clarence Kokkinis" <ckokkinis@comcast.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]RE: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 31, Issue 109
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> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 09:21:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: Peter Jourdain <pjourdain@yahoo.com>
> To: Nic Henderson <nic.henderson@ntlworld.com>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Cyclists Special documentary----(Reynolds shoes) and
> SARTOR
> jackets
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> Hello, again, CR mates---
>
> Nic's posted film frames from the British Railways
> movie reminded me of typical touring clothing of the
> day, the Sartor-style jacket, somewhat longish and
> typically gathered at the waist and having several
> utility pockets. Just the thing you need when riding
> in the damp and cold. You can spot the khaki-colored
> garments throughout the frames of the film. Since
> folks were talking about the availability of Reynolds
> traditional English touring shoes, I'm wondering if
> the Sartor-style jacket might be available somewhere.
> Of course a good seamstress could make one (my cousin
> used to make gowns and jackets that her customers had
> seen in old '40s movies, etc.). But I'm wondering if
> there is a clothing manufacturer out there who still
> produces this style garment.
>
> Below is a link to a scan from Vol. 72, No. 11,
> November 1953 CTC Gazette, showing the type of jacket
> I'm referring to.
>
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/pjourdain/detail?.dir=92a7&.dnm=4481re2.jpg&.src=ph
>
>
> Cheerio,
>
>
> The Keen Clubman
> Peter Jourdain
> Whitewater, Wisconsin
>
>
> --- Nic Henderson <nic.henderson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi listees
>> For those of you who enjoyed (or not) my 'Visit to
>> Jack Taylor Cycles'
>> (which is actually a description of a documentary
>> about the Taylor
>> brothers called 'The Bike Brothers') on my
>> semi-retired 'BikeBrothers'
>> site (http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/taylorbros.htm),
>> I have just given a
>> sililar treatment to the 'Cyclists Special' a
>> charming information film
>> made by British Transport Films. This 1955 film
>> follows some cyclists as
>> they set off on a special train from Willesden and
>> Watford and travel to
>> Rugby in the Midlands. I'm sure I've heard this
>> documentary mentioned
>> before on the list, so my appologies if I am going
>> over old ground, no
>> pun intended.
>>
>> See it here
>> http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/cyclistsspecial.htm
>>
>> Nic Henderson
>> Newport
>> UK
>>
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> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:25:54 -0500
> From: oroboyz@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Was: Caution! Look closely ... Now: scams
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> Phil wrote:
> << Who gets taken in by these, anyway?>>
>
> I sold an off topic DeRosa frameset last season and was contacted later
> by a guy in Florida who eagerly had sent off wire payment for the same
> frame a week after I completed my sale to the real buyer. He just said
> "I was so eager to own that frame I took a chance!" He was out $900.00
> Moral of the story? Scamsters are not totally wasting their time!
>
> Dale Brown
> cycles de ORO, Inc.
> 1410 Mill Street
> Greensboro, NC 27408 USA
> 336-274-5959
> http://www.cyclesdeoro.com
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com
> Giant, Specialized, Orbea, Bianchi, Felt, Litespeed, Landshark,
> Colnago, Townie and other exotica.
> National Bicycle Dealers Association Board member
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Sieg <triodelover@comcast.net>
> To: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: Tom Sanders <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net>;
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:53:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [CR]Caution! Look closely at the chrome Paramount item
> #7223752937 being offered on E-Bay
>
> Jerry et al,
>
> Most of these hijacks we have outed have been fairly obvious. All have
> a couple of things in common:
>
> * low- or no-feedback seller
> * one-day auctions
> * payment by direct wire transfer.
>
> In addition, discrepancies about the location of the seller and
> location of the item have been noted. Yesterday Peter's rip-off was in
> China. Today's seller has a UK e-mail addy while selling a bike in
> Oklahoma.
>
> One more thing they have in common is their general incompetence as
> con artists. Who gets taken in by these, anyway? I doubt it would pass
> the smell test for even a moderately web-savvy teenager. It's not like
> the costume jewelry con profiled in the NY times a couple of weeks
> back.
>
> Most legitimate new sellers in our area of interest that I've noted
> lately tend to run their auctions for the usual 5 to 7 days. Most have
> gotten hip to Paypal, although a few Luddites remain. And most start
> out small, for the very reason you point out - they need to build up
> feedback. People will take a chance more readily on a $25 item - or
> even a $100 one - than they will when things move into four figures.
>
> FWIW, I think extensive positive feedback as a buyer would provide
> reassurance to most people.
>
> Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
>
> >More likely someone hijacked John's auction. This kind of thing is
> getting out of hand on eBay. The sad thing is, what is a legitimate new
> seller to do? If you have not yet established feedback, lots of buyers
> will avoid you, suspecting you are one of these crooks. Since I never
> sell on eBay, I suppose if I did, no one would bid except maybe list
> members, unless my extensive feedback as a buyer were enough to
> reassure bidders. And those entirely new to eBay don't even have that.
> Too bad a few crooks have to screw things up for so many others, but I
> guess that story is as old as the human race.
> > > Regards,
> > > Jerry Moos
> > Big Spring, TX
> > > > > >
>
> -- Phil Sieg
> Knoxville, Tennessee
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> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:27:47 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: Peter Jourdain <pjourdain@yahoo.com>
> Cc: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Cyclists Special documentary----(Reynolds shoes) and
> SARTOR
> jackets
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> Hello Peter,
> Don't forget the Greensport Nomad these were a lot
> more poular with the CTC lads and lassies than the
> Sartor. Think you can still purchase Sartors but from
> non cyclist sources, plenty of the Brits on the list
> are Saga aged and should be able to help in your
> quest.
> Greensport did theirs in colours towards the end red
> blue and bottle green.
> Reynolds and Pete Salisbury shoes are still available.
> Mick Butler Hunts old enough for all this kit now!.
> UK.
> --- Peter Jourdain <pjourdain@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello, again, CR mates---
>>
>> Nic's posted film frames from the British Railways
>> movie reminded me of typical touring clothing of the
>> day, the Sartor-style jacket, somewhat longish and
>> typically gathered at the waist and having several
>> utility pockets. Just the thing you need when riding
>> in the damp and cold. You can spot the khaki-colored
>> garments throughout the frames of the film. Since
>> folks were talking about the availability of
>> Reynolds
>> traditional English touring shoes, I'm wondering if
>> the Sartor-style jacket might be available
>> somewhere.
>> Of course a good seamstress could make one (my
>> cousin
>> used to make gowns and jackets that her customers
>> had
>> seen in old '40s movies, etc.). But I'm wondering if
>> there is a clothing manufacturer out there who still
>> produces this style garment.
>>
>> Below is a link to a scan from Vol. 72, No. 11,
>> November 1953 CTC Gazette, showing the type of
>> jacket
>> I'm referring to.
>>
>>
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/pjourdain/detail?.dir=92a7&.dnm=4481re2.jpg&.src=ph
>>
>>
>> Cheerio,
>>
>>
>> The Keen Clubman
>> Peter Jourdain
>> Whitewater, Wisconsin
>>
>>
>> --- Nic Henderson <nic.henderson@ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi listees
>> > For those of you who enjoyed (or not) my 'Visit to
>> > Jack Taylor Cycles'
>> > (which is actually a description of a documentary
>> > about the Taylor
>> > brothers called 'The Bike Brothers') on my
>> > semi-retired 'BikeBrothers'
>> > site
>> (http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/taylorbros.htm),
>> > I have just given a
>> > sililar treatment to the 'Cyclists Special' a
>> > charming information film
>> > made by British Transport Films. This 1955 film
>> > follows some cyclists as
>> > they set off on a special train from Willesden and
>> > Watford and travel to
>> > Rugby in the Midlands. I'm sure I've heard this
>> > documentary mentioned
>> > before on the list, so my appologies if I am going
>> > over old ground, no
>> > pun intended.
>> >
>> > See it here
>> > http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/cyclistsspecial.htm
>> >
>> > Nic Henderson
>> > Newport
>> > UK
>> >
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> Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not
> still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:43:05 -0800
> From: Philip Easton <sybaspex@tcsn.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Alma Mich wood rim
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> Hi All, I am looking for a 36 hole rim to match an existing one on a rear
> sprint wheel that I have. The rim I have is 36 holes, and is stamped
> "Fairbanks Boston - Laminated Wood Rim - ALMA MICH". If anyone as a spare
> one of these I would be interested in purchasing it. My existing wheel
> has
> the prewar type riveted large flange Airlite hub, so presumably this makes
> the wheel pre WWII, the rim also shows evidence of having the tire taped
> to
> it at four 1/4 points. Thanks, Phil Easton, Cambria, California
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:47:05 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: dgranger@comcast.net
> Cc: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Head Badge ID from Bikebrothers film? (Duncan Granger)
> Message-ID: <20060303174705.44889.qmail@web25311.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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> Duncan,
> That's a Claud Butler headbadge. Frame appears to be
> just pre-war or possibly early postwar. Headclip
> headset puts it there.
> My guess is a Continental Classique.
> Best wishes Mickey
> --- dgranger@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Really neat stills from the 1955 bike touring movie
>> at bikebrothers.co.uk
>> Can anyone identify the make of this bike from the
>> pic of the headbadge (on the enormously large
>> headtube)?
>>
> http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/cyclistsspecial_files/Page03_files/cs43_r.jpg
>> Duncan Granger
>> Mountville, PA
>>
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> Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not
> still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:28:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: Brett Horton <bretthorton@thehortoncollection.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Wanted: Paletti Frame Decals
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>
> I am attempting to restore my 1981 Paletti road bike. I cannot seem to
> unearth a set of frame decals. Anyone out there have a set they could
> sale? In a perfect world, I would like vinyl panel decals and "Ferrari"
> horse head tube decal. However, anything from the early 1980's would be
> great.
>
> Brett Horton
> San Francisco, CA
>
>
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