Dale---- Are any of you acquainted with the lovely John Fairbanks prints of vintage cycles-- mostly British? I am fortunate in having a complete set, and believe that more would be available if there was any interest..... I'd be happy to inquire/arrange---- cheers---Nelson Miller--- Seattle, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: oroboyz@aol.com<mailto:oroboyz@aol.com> To: brandon@ivycycles.com<mailto:brandon@ivycycles.com> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org<mailto:classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> ; bretthorton@thehortoncollection.com<mailto:bretthorton@thehortoncollectio n.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [CR]Rebour Original Drawings
<< Reproductions are fine if you're getting ones for the $1000+ images, but as Brett said some can be had for under $200. That's dirt cheap for original art. I've paid more at MFA auctions. >>
Oh I agree. (I sold some of my MFA paintings for a lot more than that,
back in 1973!) I would eagerly step up to buy an original as well. I just gathered from what Brett said that the chnace of that coming about is not good...
<< I don't think it would be hard selling quality Rebour prints. The tough part would be choosing the subject matter. Maybe when everybody gets together for the Cirque or VR we could have a juried show kinda thing with people voting for their fave drawings. .>>
The guy who owns the originals gets to decide! :)
Dale Brown Greensboro, NC USA
-----Original Message----- From: Brandon Ives <brandon@ivycycles.com<mailto:brandon@ivycycles.com>> To: oroboyz@aol.com<mailto:oroboyz@aol.com> Cc: bretthorton@thehortoncollection.com<mailto:bretthorton@thehortoncollectio n.com>; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org<mailto:classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:18:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [CR]Rebour Original Drawings
Sorry I'm late back in, but my email was down. Reproductions are fine if you're getting ones for the $1000+ images,
but as Brett said some can be had for under $200. That's dirt cheap for original art. I've paid more at MFA auctions. Personally the stuff that interests me the most are things like the drawing of Tubasti rim cement and Var tools. I don't think it would be hard selling quality Rebour prints. The tough part would be choosing the subject matter. Maybe when everybody gets together for the Cirque or VR we could have a juried show kinda thing with people voting for their fave drawings. best, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives Vancouver, B.C.
On Wednesday, Mar 8, 2006, at 10:54 US/Pacific, oroboyz@aol.com<mailto:oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
> I cringe as well at the low resolution of the Data books rendering
of > the Rebour drawings. > > DR's art counts heavily on the weight and spacing of the strokes in > his pen work.. When done poorly, the textures and effects he achieved > in the real work are mottled and blotched. > > This happens to a great degree in Patterson's drawing as well. Very > sad.... > > I wonder if there might be a modest market for very high quality >
reproduction prints? Maybe a few key pieces from your collection, > Brett? Count me in as a customer for same! > > > Dale Brown > Greensboro, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brett Horton <bretthorton@thehortoncollection.com<mailto:bretthorton@thehortoncollecti on.com>> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org<mailto:classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> > Sent: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:53:43 -0800 (PST) > Subject: re: [CR]Rebour Original Drawing Availability > > I have a small stash of Rebour's original drawings and original > printing plates > in my collection. I obtained them in a deal with a collector in France > a few > years back. He had acquired the bulk of what was theoretically left of > the > family archives years ago. I ended up with about 30%, another > collector has > about the same, and the original collector now has about 40% of what > he started > with. I've been meaning to put the ones I have up on my web site for > the past > 2-3 years but have just never quite got around to it. > > For all of Rebour's prolific output, there does not appear to be >
that many
> pieces of available original art out there. In any given 5 year
period > I see
> perhaps 4-5 of his drawings surface at auction and virtually
nothing
> appearing
> on the private market. (ie about one drawing per year) My >
understanding is most
> of what comes up for sale goes to Japan.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, three other collectors and I have the
>
majority of
> the known drawings. All told, I'm guessing between the four of us
>
there are
> 300-400 drawings. Figure another 200 or so are out there scattered
to > the winds.
> And who knows? There might be hundreds more that are for now just
>
sitting in
> boxes tucked away in some printers storage basement in France.
Still, > as a
> percent of original output, only a relatively small percentage of
>
Rebour's
> drawings seem to survive.
>
> Don't interpret this to mean the drawings are priceless. Far from
>
it. While a
> nice Tour de France bike drawing will cost you $1000+, smaller >
drawings can be
> had for less than $200. Basically, expect to pay from $90-175 for
most > of the
> more common or simple drawings. Bigger drawings, or those of >
particularly trick
> or otherwise unusual items will bring more. And drawings of things
>
like Campy
> and Herse components fetch even more. Of course, this is all on
the
> premise you
> can find them. I have been passively looking, with no success, for
>
Rebour's
> drawing of a Campy track cog drawing for 10+ years. If I ever find
it, > it will > be purely by luck. > > Rebour's actual artwork is really impressive. The magazines they >
were printed > in don't do the original art justice. The second and third generation > reprints, > like the series of books from Japan, pretty much crucify the beauty of > the > originals. > > Best of luck on the Rebour art quest. > > Brett Horton > San Francisco, CA > > > > Brandon"monkeyman"Ives wrote: > <snip> Of course in all the years I've been into this stuff I've >
never seen, > or heard, of an original drawing being sold. Rebour made thousands
of > drawings
> over his career and was popular during the time so I don't see his
>
originals
> just being destroyed after use in a ad or magazine. Does anyone
have
> any ideas
> on the availability of original Rebour work?
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