I Ordered Nov 1 2005 a Mercian Vincitore, Eye Candy!! I like the lugs I have to admit, BUT I did spec it the way I want, I DO NOT want 72 head and 75 seat for a 52cm frame they tell me this is because of toe clearance with the front wheel!! and people crashing!!! I want 73 head and71 seat, allways like to sit back behind the bracket, anyway it is now March 10 2006, Mercian says should be any month now!!! they have been real busy!! But this beats the heck out off 4 yrs and I should get, someday a frame that is built the way I want it and finished the way I want, White with Blue barbers pole on seat tube and blue panel head tube, with Red lettering and lug lining. VERY Patriotic to both Brits and Yanks, I have the Mercian jerseys in Red White and blue also, so should me meet someday on a ride,PLEASE salute. Cheers John Crump, OldwishtheweaherwouldclearupsoIcanrideagainBrit, Parker Co USA