Re: [CR]re: KOF Frames and Growing Old

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:44:23 -0500
From: <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]re: KOF Frames and Growing Old
In-reply-to: <20060311145700.94317.qmail@web50508.mail.yahoo.com>
To: Emanuel Lowi <lowiemanuel@yahoo.ca>
References: <MONKEYFOODAujr1oPMv00003688@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Emanuel said: <snip> "I was delighted by the responses I got from Mercian and Bob Jackson. They were very accomodating and what they offered had plenty of individuality.

Jackson, for example, will build with 531, 753, 853, with Hetchins-esque lug work at a price that is simply irresistible -- a complete bike for about the price of a frame only from an illustrious neighbour to my south.

The choice was obvious."

I guess this choice is obvious if you are focussed on a price, but you get what you pay for. Even among British bikes a real Hetchins or a Ron Cooper made Bates or such is around $2000. I think a few patient questions to the illustrious neighbors to the south or even questions to the illustrious neighbor to the west (Mariposa) would reveal the differences of a great custom frame versus the Mercian or Bob Jackson type.

Don't get me wrong, a Mercian or Bob Jackson is a fine bike, but unless you are on a strict budget or have a very specialized need I can see no advantage of one of these over a used frame. For a limited budget there are thrifty options in the US also. Franklin Frames, for example, has a simple custom model for $990.

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: Emanuel Lowi
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:57:00 -0000
Subject: [CR]re: KOF Frames and Growing Old


> Thomas Adams wrote (in part):

\r?\n>

\r?\n> > How many builders have multi

\r?\n> > year wait lists? Baylis, Sachs, Rivendell,

\r?\n> > Bohemian, and anyone else? (Obviously not Bruce

\r?\n> > Gordon, now's the time to jump in line!!!) Mercian,

\r?\n> > Bob Jackson, Franklin Frames (and no doubt many

\r?\n> > others) can ship you a custom frame in considerably

\r?\n> > under 6 months.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> When I decided to shop for a KOF frame last year, I

\r?\n> first contacted some of the most respected American

\r?\n> builders.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Not only was I astonished by the wait times, their

\r?\n> prices were way beyond my budget.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Then I checked with some of the remaining old-time

\r?\n> British builders.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I was delighted by the responses I got from Mercian

\r?\n> and Bob Jackson. They were very accomodating and what

\r?\n> they offered had plenty of individuality.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Jackson, for example, will build with 531, 753, 853,

\r?\n> with Hetchins-esque lug work at a price that is simply

\r?\n> irresistible -- a complete bike for about the price of

\r?\n> a frame only from an illustrious neighbour to my

\r?\n> south.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The choice was obvious.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Emanuel Lowi

\r?\n> Montreal, Quebec

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

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