The leather cleats provide a moderate amount of float and wear in to suit a natural position. I agree that nylon and metal cleats are much less forgiving.
Charlie
<sachshm@cox.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [CR] shoes for clips/straps & TA ref 40 cleats
> I'm as nostalgic as anyone but nail on, non-adjustable cleats are for the
birds in my opinion. They lead to not getting the angle right which leads
to knee problems. I can't remember how many times I went through the
establish a line and try and get some cobbler to get them on right routine.
I'm sure Harvey is more skilled, but getting them ergonomically correct is a
very tricky business that goes beyond even getting the cleats on that line.
>
> Maybe the leather ones are more forgiving, but adjustable cleats and
Fit-Kit fitting were two innovations I grabbed and never looked back.
>
> I also like the dear departed Sidis with just the ribbed soles for a
touring type shoe.
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
> Great Notch, Nj
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles T. Young" <youngc@ptd.net>
> Date: Tuesday, April 4, 2006 9:06 am
> Subject: Re: [CR] shoes for clips/straps & TA ref 40 cleats
>
> > Those look fine. I'd suggest having the local cobbler fit a small
> > heel to
> > protect the shoe for light walking about. I'd take it one step
> > further and
> > also have the cobbler (or Harvey Sachs if he's in the
> > neighborhood) fit the
> > TA leather touring ref 40 "modele turino" cleats. As I recall, you
> > are a
> > woodworker, so this would be very straight forward for you, you'll
> > simplyneed to clinch nail them on yourself You can see them at
> > Joel Metz'
> > wonderful TA pages:
> >
> > http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
> >
> > http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
> >
> > Best to ride the shoes for a spell to establish the best line for
> > the cleat
> > positioning as the rear of the quill pedal cage leaves an indent.
> > While I
> > haven't tried it yet, these cleats would not be difficult for a
> > cobbler to
> > duplicate. They consist of a thin piece of steel with two leather
> > wedgesglued down.
> >
> > I'm a bit lazy; anyone have one or two pairs of factory-made TA
> > cleats to
> > sell? I've several shoes that could use them. Harv, why don't you
> > fab me a
> > prototype or two?
> >
> > Charlie Young
> > Honey Brook, PA
> >
> > p.s. You could always just wear a pair of think soled wingtips,
> > that has a
> > style all its own... Yo, Pergolizzi, what's your call?
> >
> > P. Lynn Miller asked:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > I found these - eBay - Item number: 7230533313 - Anyone know
> > anything> about these or have used this shoe? They may be a bit
> > too vintage. But I
> > > am looking for shoes with laces. No velcro or ratchets.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > P. Lynn Miller
> > > Sydney, Australia