Hi all, I've read with interest. I have a body with the same shaping as the ones that Mark A has posted the links too, but mine has alloy pivot pins as opposed to the steel ones in his pix, but unlike the old one I sold a few years ago, this one does not have the screws to keep the outer top arm on, and does alos NOT have a circlip groove to hold it on. Yes it is a cable stop version, but that has long ago broken of, as yet still don't know what I have.
Its destined to be customised with a 4 hole cage into a lightweight version...........regardsd wayne davidson Invers NZ.......
on 27/4/06 5:53 PM, FujiFish1@aol.com at FujiFish1@aol.com wrote:
> Here's a couple of pics of the same type of Record derailleur that Rich is
> talking about:
> http://www.wooljersey.com/
> <http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/album110/Italv76_SupSpec57SilvGreen27?full=
> 1>
>
> This one is not completely typical, as it has had the face of the clamp
> reduced so that it more closely resembles lug points, but it once was normal.
> The
> item was received with a matching reduced Campy Record gruppo that dates to
> about 1970, arriving on a bike from Europe. No cable stop, chromed bronze
> arms,
> and, having the slim rounded lower hinge pin housing, no circlip, and a flat
> cage face ... the last four of the five features noted being changed
> consecutively over the few years following.
>
> There is another subtle difference of change that I think has been talked
> about on list but is seldom referenced. That is ... the punched out flap of
> the
> inner cage plate that has the front of the spring and lower pivot arm screw
> mounted through it, has a different shape than newer versions. No pics to
> show,
> but I can take some comparison shots if anyone really wants to see the
> difference. I can also reword the sentence, if it went on too long to
> understand :)
>
> 30 quick miles on my 1984 Torpado Superlight today around Marcus Helman's
> serene neighborhood loop ... and I loved it!
>
> Ciao,
> Mark Agree
> Southfield MI
> ~ ~ ~
>
>
> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:48:54 -0400
> From: "Richard Robinson" <vintagespoke@earthlink.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]First Record front derailleur
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I remember several weeks ago someone on the list described the first
> version of the Record front derailleur. They described the derailleur
> as having chrome pivot arms and the long cable stop. I am familiar with
> the rare cable stop derailleur, but this was the first time I had heard
> about chrome pivot arms. Well, I was looking at some of my parts
> (spring cleaning) and found an interesting front Record derailleur in my
> stash. It does not include the cable stop, but has chromed pivot arms
> as apposed to alloy arms. The shape of the clamp support held up
> against the seat tube on the drive side (where the cable stop arm would
> be located) is shaped differently too. Instead of the flat box-shaped
> bottom seen on my other front Record derailleurs, this derailleur's
> support is shaped like a sharks fin. No indication of file marks or
> broken cable stop. Additionally, the derailleur has no 'C' clip to hold
> the arms in place so one would think this is pre '73-'74. This also
> leads me to believe this is not a lower level Campy derailleur from the
> mid 80's, i.e. 980 derailleur. Is this perhaps a transition piece
> from the first Record derailleur w/cable stop to the more common pre '74
> Record derailleurs without 'C' clip? Or perhaps someone just swapped
> parts?! Anyone have an idea what this is?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards, Rich Robinson
>
> Jacksonville NC