Re: [CR]Re: DeRosa Anniversary with 50th on ebay - "issues"

(Example: Component Manufacturers)

Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:29:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: DeRosa Anniversary with 50th on ebay - "issues"
To: hersefan@comcast.net, "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <050920061658.18394.4460CA36000A36E1000047DA2205889116020E000A9C9D0A08@comcast.net>


Hi Mike,

The 35th De Rosa bike was factory spec'd with C-Record (with the Ugo signature panto'd on the Delta brakes and/or the crank arms), so the 50th Anniversary gruppo is really not correct on this frame. And while the frame looks like it may be unblemished (I dón't know about unridden), the 50th gruppo is either light used, or more likely, seems to have suffered the consequences of outdoor storage. And as far as the f/w, some of the cogs definitely show the kind of wear that comes after more than just a casual tune-up ride.

The Cyclart price, IMHO, is unrealistic. Given the rarity a 35th De Rosa in such a large size, and the rarity of a 50th with 175 cranks, I would say that the FMV of this bike would max out around $2,500.

Nice saddle though - Lou Deeter collect those fancy Regals.

Ray Dobbins Miami Florida

hersefan@comcast.net wrote: Someone commented to me off list that what appears to be corrosion might actually be cosmoline - I'm not sure I believe it, especially at the toe clips. And the freewheel still looks used to me. But I did want to at least let folks know that there are other opinions out there as to what I observed from the photos.

Mike Kone in Boulder CO


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From: hersefan@comcast.net


> Howdy folks,

\r?\n> I was reviewing the images of this bike on ebay for a friend and found some

\r?\n> "issues" that the group should be aware of.

\r?\n> It is a DeRosa 35th anniversary frame (not sure what that means, looks like one

\r?\n> of the generic ones from the 1990's that DeRosa did with different retro decals

\r?\n> but made with investment cast bits so it all looked a tad off) built with a

\r?\n> Campy 50th group.

\r?\n> The add says "Unridden and unblemished!"

\r?\n> Take a look at the photos and you will see worn cogs on the alloy campy

\r?\n> freewheel, and lots of corrosion on the steel bits such as bolts and cable

\r?\n> adjusters and toe clips. In my mind, this is neither unridden nor unblemished.

\r?\n> Not too bad from the photos - but if you are expecting something perfect as the

\r?\n> add says I suspect the buyer might be dissapointed.

\r?\n> Also note that the headset is C-rec, not the correct super record. The add does

\r?\n> not state if the correct headset is also included.

\r?\n> The URL for the bike listing is

\r?\n> http://ebay.com/<blah>

\r?\n> emZ7170871376QQcategoryZ98084QQcmdZViewItem

\r?\n> The item is very hard to find on ebay - it is inside the CyclArt ebay store and

\r?\n> has a buy it now price of $3,895.

\r?\n> The bike may be extremely nice in person, and with some clean-up might be quite

\r?\n> a nice machine. It just does not seem to jive with the description.

\r?\n> Mike Kone in Boulder CO