Yeah, what goes for Zerran and Willie goes for me too.
Chuck South Pasadena, CA Ninety degrees and nice
On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Perry Lopez wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have to agree with Willie on this one as well.
>
> Zerran
> Sierra Madre, CA
> 100 degrees and very dry
>
>
> On 7/4/06 4:22 PM, "wilc" <cherrycycle1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> DALE ,HI , going to add my two pennies worth, what is really so
>> wrong
>> here???, surely a guy can describe his property in whatever way
>> he so desires
>> using whatever workspeak way he thinks will add to his sale AS
>> LONG AS ITS
>> ACCURATE, ....
>> .you don't like it, so look past it
>> . come on guys, De Rosa in whatever clothes is still a soul
>> machine and KOF
>> cut the guy some slack... ?
>> willie carton ,coleraine northern ireland... where its now 22 deg
>> and sultry.
>>
>> oroboyz@aol.com wrote: Hi ho Frank:
>>
>> Great point, I agree perhaps I was a bit over-enthusiastic in my
>> Magni
>> sale description! However, I will defend what I said as being
>> accurate,
>> if some what wordy. But I agree that wordiness that be a bit
>> obnoxious
>> too! Ha!
>>
>> To get technical with your sale description;
>>
>> You said "truly unique" and that is conjecture on your part. While
>> you
>> may have never seen another of that description, you could have more
>> accurately said; "I haven't seen another like it", rather that flatly
>> stating it was "truly unique".
>>
>> In addition, you wrote "...fully lugged with the famous and revered
>> DeRosa lugs." Revered? OK... but a bit hyperbolic, IMO.
>>
>> All of this should not be taken too seriously, except that sellers
>> should not be surprised if readers get a bit peevish when we
>> hammer the
>> advertising with too heavy blows! I certainly will be more careful
>> with
>> my writing! I hope you will too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dale
>>
>>
>> Dale Brown
>> Greensboro, NC USA
>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Retrofan531
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Sent: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 17:16:03 -0500
>> Subject: [CR]RE: FS: 54cm DeRosa Super Prestige frame and fork
>>
>> SNIPPED: 2. Frank does distinctly engage in hyperbole in his For
>> Sale
>> notice, the forced superlatives of which might be appropriate for the
>> less
>> sophisticated Ebay customer, but are a bit hard to take here on the
>> CR-list.
>> Maybe a bit less hype would encourage fewer retorts? :)
>>
>> Dale Brown
>> Greensboro, NC USA
>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com
>> ================
>> Dale,
>>
>> While this is your list and I am but a free-loading guest, I would
>> attempt
>> to have this same discussion if we were face-to-face.
>>
>> You state that I "distinctly engage in hyperbole in his For Sale
>> notice, the
>> forced superlatives of which might be appropriate for the less
>> sophisticated
>> Ebay customer, but are a bit hard to take here on the CR-list.
>> Maybe a
>> bit
>> less hype would encourage fewer retorts? :)"
>>
>> I stated in the listing "What an opportunity to own a truly unique
>> frameset!". As stated earlier, I have never in my many years of bike
>> interest seen a DeRosa Super Prestige painted in this exact color
>> scheme,
>> and evidently neither has my more esteemed fellow list member Lou
>> Deeter
>> (who by the way used to have a red white and blue Spectrum he rode on
>> the
>> 4th of July).
>>
>> Dale, perhaps you could do me a favor and point out to me what
>> portion
>> of
>> this for sale listing is hyperbole, which is defined as "an
>> extravagant
>> exaggeration used as a figure of speech." Is this the sentence,
>> "What an
>> opportunity to own a truly unique frameset!", that you refer to as
>> the
>> "hyperbole"? If so, where is the extravagant exaggeration in that
>> statement?
>>
>> I dare say there is less salesmanship in my listing than in your very
>> own
>> recent for sale listing for a Magni-Ferrari where you claimed
>> "This is a
>> very desirable, infrequently seen, top model from Switzerland in
>> splendid,
>> verging on showroom condition. Workmanship, dare I say, superior to
>> many if
>> not most marques discussed here on the CR? Please look at the photos.
>> With a
>> little spit & polish, this could be a Concours winner as well."
>>
>> I am not criticizing your choice of words for your for sale
>> posting, as
>> I be
>> lieve it is through our descriptions of our bikes that the passion we
>> have
>> for these older lugged bikes shows so strongly, but perhaps
>> "hyperbole"
>> is
>> in the eye of the beholder.
>>
>> While I am on this topic, let me say that Maaslands's comment
>> seemed to
>> me
>> to serve no positive purpose. If he had a question as to what I
>> saw in
>> this
>> DeRosa that made it unique, he could have sent me an e-mail rather
>> than
>> just
>> posting a snippy note to the list. Or, he could have at least
>> copied me
>> on
>> the note asking for me to provide my rationale, but he didn't do that
>> either. Absent that, I replied on-list and now you replied on-list
>> and
>> now I
>> am replying on-list, all probably to the benefit of nobody. Maybe we
>> can all
>> agree that if we have a question about someone's choice of words, we
>> could
>> contact them privately for an explanation.
>>
>> Frank Phillips
>> McAlester, OK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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