Thanks to this excellent list I already have one in the mail from a list member. Another member emailed me a site that had some NOS pairs for sale. Thank you one and all for your quick replies. Much thanks.
Robert Brooks
Seattle, WA USA
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:05:19 +0000
> From: brooks.r.g@comcast.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Peugeot drop out adjuster
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> I've got a friend who recently died from cancer. He left behind a mid 60's PX10
> which his 22 year old son started to ride. Unfortunately, while riding one day,
> he torqued the rear axle enough that the rear-drop out adjuster broke sending
> him over the handlebars. I couldn't really get a clear explanation as to what he
> was actually doing at the time.
>
> He would like to start riding the bike again so I promised that I would try to
> find a replacement.
>
>
> So I'm asking if anyone could please help me in locating one or a pair of these
> adjusters.
>
> These are the ones that look like spacers that fit inside the actual drop-out,
> not the threaded micro-adjutable type.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Brooks
> Seattle, WA USA
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:58:28 +0000
> From: fatcogtom@comcast.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]cinelli jumpsuit
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> it would have been better to list the price you want for it instead of frothing
> up demand and then directing everyone to your ebay auction.
> If you intend to sell something on CR List, you gotta include the price.
>
> tom martin
> oakland ca
>
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:15:59 -0600
> From: theonetrueBob@webtv.net (Bob Hanson)
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Cc: brooks.r.g@comcast.net
> Subject: [CR] Peugeot drop out adjuster
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> Hi Robert,
>
> Afraid I can't help you out directly with replacement adjusters right
> now. They do appear on eBay... but only occasionally. However, I've
> frequently found them in the discarded parts bins at old local bike
> shops. And, they even more often will have the simple one-piece plastic
> ones from later Peugeot, etc., frames (for real cheap) if you just want
> to fit a set of those on the bike as a temporary convenience.
>
> PS: ~ I find it hard to imagine how an over-torqued axle (?) or even a
> loosened adjuster could jam the drive train, unless the adjuster bolt
> had somehow completely unscrewed and dropped parts into the rear
> derailleur cage.
>
> Those old Prestige rear derailleurs (if that's what the bike had) did
> become a bit overly flexy with age. My guess would be that he had just
> dropped the chain off of the small cog so that it had suddenly wedged
> between the freewheel and the dropout (or adjuster)... and perhaps that
> may have yanked the end of the adjuster out of place - giving him the
> impression that this was somehow the cause.
>
> Anyway, Good Luck!
> Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, New Mexico
>
>
> Robert Brooks wrote:
>
> "...Unfortunately, while riding one day, he torqued the rear axle enough
> that the rear-drop out adjuster broke sending him over the handlebars. I
> couldn't really get a clear explanation as to what he was actually doing
> at the time..."
>
> Robert Brooks
> Seattle, WA USA
>
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:06:22 +0100
> From: "NIGEL LAND"
> To:
> Subject: [CR]Rivetted bottom bracket cable guides
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> I almost have my Falcon San Remo Model 76 rebuilt. It looks just like Jerry
> Moos's superb model with a few subtle differences. One is that Jerry's has a
> bolt on Campag style cable guide, whereas mine is rivetted through the
> bottom of the bottom bracket and is plastic. Of course, it is possible that
> this is an add-on. Does anyone know when these guides became common
> practice?
>
> Nigel Land
> Barton on Humber
> UK
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:11:18 -0400
> From: George Allen
> To:
> Subject: RE: [CR]Was 753, now is energy recovered constructively?
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> Jan et al,
>
> Sorry to be tardy on a reply but I've been computerless at home and
> just read this thread. I am now the fortunate owner of the Weigle
> Randonneur you tested for VBQ. I've been riding it as much as
> possible including 135 miles last Friday. Strangely, I find myself in
> higher cadences on this bike than my older, vintage bikes, especially
> while climbing. However, this is the first non-friction bike I've
> ever owned. So with 20 gears available at my fingertips I've been
> shifting much more often. Coincidentally, my primary ride before the
> Weigle was a 1979 Raleigh Team 753. I can say the 753 frame flexed
> quite a bit more, mostly around the bottom bracket. This was
> especially noticeable mounted on the trainer in the basement during
> the winter. The Raleigh definitely climbs better but that may be
> because it's lighter than the Weigle, especially the wheels (290 gram
> Ergals and 230 gram tubulars vs Fir clinchers with a front Dynohub).
> On long rides, however, it's no contest. I'm so much more comfortable
> on the Weigle after 135 miles than 65 miles into a century on the
> Raleigh. I've ridden nothing besides the Weigle since I got her a few
> weeks back. It's going to be difficult riding anything else.
>
> George Allen
> Lexington, Ky
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 12:08 AM 7/16/2006, Jan Heine wrote:
> >There is an article in the current issue of Vintage Bicycle
> >Quarterly that uses a finite element analysis to look at the four
> >different types of flex that occur at the bottom bracket... and in
> >each case, when the pedaling load decreases at the dead spot, the
> >frame springs back and this either rotates the cranks or pull the
> >chain - thus turning the rear wheel. This, of course, helps you move
> >the bike, effectively smoothing your pedal stroke. You put energy
> >into the frame when you have plenty during the downstroke, and you
> >get it back when you are at the dead spots. The finite element
> >analysis found that the total amount of energy going into and out of
> >the frame was very small. However, as one reviewer (Hank Folsom of
> >Henry James lugs) pointed out, the model did not allow the rider to
> >adjust their pedal stroke to the bike's particular flex characteristic.
> >
> >Basically, if taken at face value, the article would imply that
> >within reason, the amount of flex does not matter at all. However,
> >that does not match my experience.
> >
> >The more I ride different bikes, the more I realize that for me,
> >some bikes require adjustments to my pedal stroke. The Peter Weigle
> >Randonneur (lightweight OS tubing) I tested for VBQ felt OK for the
> >first 200 miles, then I finally got in sync with the bike by
> >decreasing my cadence a bit, and it was outstanding. When I got back
> >on my customary Singer (lightweight standard diameter tubing), I
> >bogged down on the first hill until I realized that I was using a
> >one gear higher than usual. It took me a few miles to readjust my
> >cadence. More recently, I rode a Rene Herse with OS down tube, and
> >it took me about 70 miles until the bike became part of me. Then it
> >flew. I am not sure what I did differently, so it must have been subtle.
> >
> >On some bikes, the adjustments are too much for me to make. I rode
> >one bike from heavy-gauge OS tubing that felt fine at a full effort
> >and 50 rpm. I can't do that for more than a few seconds... as I
> >usually pedal around 90-110 rpm.
> >
> >Jan Heine
> >Editor/Publisher
> >Vintage Bicycle Quarterly
> >c/o Il Vecchio Bicycles
> >140 Lakeside Ave, Ste. C
> >Seattle WA 98122
> >www.vintagebicyclepress.com
> >
> >
> >At 8:40 PM -0400 7/15/06, Ken Freeman wrote:
> >>I'd think that energy return only is not lost if it contributes to
> >>propulsion, i.e. it aids the next power stroke in some way. Anybody know if
> >>that's actually the case? If it isn't, or it's only partially returned to
> >>the power stroke, then some types of frame flex imply a loss of pedal
> >>energy.
> >>
> >>Ken Freeman
> >>Ann Arbor, MI
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> >>[mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
> >>Philcycles@aol.com
> >>Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 11:30 AM
> >>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >>Subject: Re: [CR]Was 753, now is stiffness desirable?
> >>
> >>
> >>In a message dated 7/14/06 9:32:30 PM, heine94@earthlink.net writes:
> >>
> >>>That is an interesting story. It is something I always am concerned
> >>>about when I test bikes. If a bike works for me, the whimpy guy who
> >>>likes flexible frames, it may not be appropriate for others with
> >>>different power outputs or different pedaling styles...
> >>
> >>If I may comment, While there is no free lunch you do get the energy used in
> >>deflecting the frame back minus the hystersis-internal material
> >>friction-loss, which in metal is minimal but pretty high in rubber. The
> >>deflection attributed to rubber will be returned mostly as heat in the tires
> >>but the deflection in the frame will be returned mostly intact when you
> >>finish deflecting-when the sprint is done.
> >>Phil Brown
> >>Way too technical way too early in San rafael, Calif.
> >>_______________________________________________
> >
> >
> >--
> >_______________________________________________
> >
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:21:47 -0700
> From: John Jorgensen
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: 735/energy recovery/"stiff frames"
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> Way back in the 70's, the Teledyne Titan while admittedly a flexible frame, was
> praised by many as a great climbing bike and not for its light weight. It was
> by others' testimonials and much later when I owned one that if I pedaled at the
> correct cadence the frame would "springback" at the right time and feel as it
> was assisting in the climb.
>
> I do not think it would win a race, but it was nice to get something for
> "nothing". Cycle computers while around at the time were too pricey to delineate
> the correct rpm, it was done by feel.
>
> Some of this diameter & gauge preference probably is due to riding style as much
> as anything else.
>
> John Jorgensen
> Torrance Ca USA
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:38:27 -0400
> From: Sheldon Brown
> To: Bicycle_Restoration@yahoogroups.com,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]RE: [Bicycle_Restoration] Larz Anderson Bicycle Show update
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> David Toppin asked:
> >
> >How long is that ride in miles?
>
> I did this ride last year, and won't be doing it again.
> Unfortunately a very large amount of the route is on narrow urban
> bike/pedestrian paths, really not suitable for group riding. One
> section led us over a narrow, pedestrian-only boardwalk that was half
> fallen into the water of Jamaica Pond. I found it quite scary.
>
> It's unfortunate, because there is excellent road riding in the
> vicinity of the Larz Anderson, if you head southwest through
> Brookline, Dedham, Newton, but this ride chose to head into the urban
> congestion of Boston and Cambridge.
>
> Sheldon "Roads" Brown
> Newtonville
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:51:01 -0700
> From: "Kurt Sperry"
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Was: Stronglight torque, now softness
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> Does anyone know or can perhaps even offer an informed guess which specific
> Al alloys were used to make Campagnolo and Stronglight (needn't limit it to
> those two necessarily) crankarms? I'd be interested in looking up empirica
> l
> data for fatigue and physical properties.
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham WA
>
>
> On 7/17/06, Toni Theilmeier wrote:
> >
> > > Stronglight cranks are softer than Campy, which is why they don't
> > > crack like Campy NR infamously do.
> > ..., Jerry wrote.
> >
> >
> > May I add that I have just salvaged a Stronglight crank, and that this
> >
> > crank has the crack in exactly the Campag NR place?
> >
> > Sorry to say that Stronglight cranks do crack if they´re made in the
> >
> > Campag way. Susceptibility to cracking varies with models, I´d say.
> >
> > Regards, Toni Theilmeier, Belm, Germany
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:55:50 -0400
> From: "Charles T. Young"
> To:
> Subject: [CR]The new Lambert?
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> I thought that someone on the CR list would make note of the Lambert on
> eBay at present:
>
> http://ebay.com/
> 3
>
> I'm guessing the marque won't stick around too very long if the auction
> is indicative of pricing. Steel, lugged this time around, and,
> presumably, without a death fork. I know the list has a few
> Lambert/Viscount fans (and detractors). Has anyone heard of any attempts
> to resuscitate Lambert?
>
> Charlie Young
> Honey Brook, PA
>
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