Don, I'm not quite clear on your method. Do your wrap each tube individually, or is it like a big zip-lock bag? Forget that. I just reread your post and see that you do each tube individually. What is never dull wad?
Thanks, Richard Long Temecula, CA USA
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>Subject: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 44, Issue 75
>Date: 19 Aug 2006 13:01:59 -0700
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>Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Seeking help- dating an old Raleigh "Sports" model
> lightweight 10-speed (Steven Tallides)
> 2. Re: Rust removal with Evaporust (Donald Gillies)
> 3. Steven Maasland's AAA Cambiago pass. (Greg S)
> 4. Re: where do old frames go to die? (John Thompson)
> 5. RE: where do old frames go to die? one possible answer
> (John T.Pergolizzi)
> 6. Re: where do old frames go to die? (Ted E. Baer)
> 7. Re: where do old frames go to die? (Ted E. Baer)
> 8. WTB Campagnolo SR RD parts
> 9. double post re: frame death (Ted E. Baer)
> 10. Re: Seeking help- dating an old Raleigh "Sports" model
> lightweight 10-speed (Sheldon Brown)
> 11. Re: Le Jeune (Dale B. Phelps)
> 12. Ben K, Bondi and bikes (Greg S)
> 13. WTB The dancing chain book
> 14. Replacement Levers (Doug Smith)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:02:04 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Steven Tallides <sjt78@yahoo.com>
>To: Sheldon Brown <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
>Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR] Seeking help- dating an old Raleigh "Sports" model
> lightweight 10-speed
>Message-ID: <20060819190204.30887.qmail@web34702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>In-Reply-To: <p06230910c10cefd2afe3@[10.0.1.10]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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>
>Sheldon,
>Thanks for your help in identifying this bike's
>vintage. A friend of mine who works at probably the
>oldest bike shop in Buffalo, NY (Rick's Cycles) also
>thought it was imported somehow and never officially
>sold in the US. He's seen a lot of old Raleighs, but
>never one like this. I haven't decided what I will do
>with the bike. There is a good chance I will strip
>the frame all components and build me up a nice unique
>fixie with some spare parts I have. This bike is not
>a museum piece so I might as well ride it, and ride it
>well. Thanks again.
>-Steven Tallides
>
>--- Sheldon Brown <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com> wrote:
>
> > Alan Lloyd wrote:
> >
> > Then a few weeks ago a Raleigh chain-wheel
> > appeared on eBay, very distinctive and the same
> > as the
> > one Raleigh Sports frame we had. It said it was
> > from the likes of a Raleigh Blue Streak and if you
> > go to
> >
>http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/blue-streak.html
> >
> > you will see it is the same as
> > the chain-wheel on your bike. More to support the
> > early 1960s dating?
> >
> > Raleigh made squadrillions of those 49/46
> > rivetted cranksets and used them on many
> > different models, including the Gran Sport,
> > various Lentons an even the 10-speed version of
> > the execrable Chopper!
> >
> > Steven's bike is indeed very like the Blue
> > Streak, major difference being the Hurét Alvit
> > derailers instead of the Benelux Mk VII on the
> > Blue Streak.
> >
> > Sheldon "Same Crank On My '58 Lenton Grand Prix"
> > Brown
> >
>+----------------------------------------------------+
> > | War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
> > |
> > | -Ambrose Bierce
> > |
> >
>+----------------------------------------------------+
> > --
> > Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
> > Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
> > http://harriscyclery.com
> > Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
> > http://captainbike.com
> > Useful articles about bicycles and cycling
> > http://sheldonbrown.com
> >
>
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:18:42 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]Rust removal with Evaporust
>Message-ID: <200608191918.k7JJIgpH012345@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
>Precedence: list
>Message: 2
>
>I am not the original person who posted about Evaporust, but I am an
>"early adopter".
>
>I have been for the past week using Evaporust to remove rust from a
>painted frame. First, let me say that this is a 1977 frame with
>nearly perfect decals and paint, it just has pinhole rust all over the
>bike, sadly, i think perhaps the primer did work properly. The rust
>comes through the pinholes and then spreads out, to blotches anywhere
>from bb-sized to pea-sized blotches. This bike has a lot of rust,
>probably 200 separate blotches, but not even a pea-sized area where
>the paint is missing entirely.
>
>1. I wrap a frame tube in plastic, making sure to tape it completely
> at both ends.
>
>2. i put Evaporust into the plastic wrap, and seal it, soaking it for
> 24 hours - about 1/8" of an inch of liquid around the tube.
>
>3. since the seam of the plastic is not completely closed, the next
> day most of the Evaporust is gone but it's only 1/4 to 1/2 cup
> that has been used.
>
>4. i rub vigorously with nevr dull wadding (the frame enamel is very
> hard; the tube warms up) to remove as much rust as I can. The
> surface of the tube becomes smooth to the touch.
>
>What happens is that this changes the bb/pea sized rust into "spider
>vein" or "broken capillary" look on the tube. The rust goes from
>orange blotches visible at 20 feet to spider veings visible at 10
>feet. There are no visible changes to the paint. I then spray the
>tubes with Boeshield to prevent new rusting.
>
>- Don Gillies
>San Diego, CA
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:22:48 +1000
>From: "Greg S" <gtsoftley@ozemail.com.au>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [CR]Steven Maasland's AAA Cambiago pass.
>Message-ID: <009c01c6c3c4$db2f3bf0$2101a8c0@sn2046777123>
>References: <MONKEYFOODXLsxpTljB00002ea4@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain;format=flowed;charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
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>
>Last Thursday I posted an open question re the Pope's Golden Colnago. Some
>great responses from the crew, but essentially I was waiting for Steven to
>chime in with the 'access all areas' view as an insider. And Steven did!
>Chime....no church bells! For any Colnago enthusiast Steven's lengthy
>discourse on the incredibly special bikes, projects and architecture at the
>Colnago HQ is pure gold! Gems like this make the CR list the great
>worldwide
>network that it is. Sitting in my pokey little office overlooking the South
>Pacific I instantly travelled to Italy via the screen and saw visions
>(thanks Wooljersey) that even Ben Kamejas couldnt conjure.
>I wont paste the submission here due to its length, but have pasted it on a
>document on my PC and saved the picture address in 'my favourites'. For any
>Colnago nut...check it out! If you on the digest list check Volume 44,
>Issue
>62 or otherwise look back to Steven's posting 8.54pm, 17th August.
>Greg Softley
>Coffs Harbour
>Australia
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:26:11 -0500
>From: John Thompson <JohnThompson@new.rr.com>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR] where do old frames go to die?
>Message-ID: <44E765D3.7030700@new.rr.com>
>In-Reply-To: <C10BEE91.3C13%fatticbicycles@qtm.net>
>References: <C10BEE91.3C13%fatticbicycles@qtm.net>
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>Message: 4
>
>Doug Fattic wrote:
>
> > There must be nice bikes sitting in garages or
> > basements somewhere. I seldom get contacted by customers wanting to
>unload
> > their bikes. Of course that might be partly because it might seem a bit
> > rude. "I don't want what you made for me anymore" or "I want to get
> > something better than want you made for me"
>
>Having cranked out hundreds of nice 531 and Columbus frames while at
>Trek, I often wonder the same thing. I see a few every so often, but
>where are the rest? I remember I customized a Trek 730 for my little
>brother in the early 80s, but he outgrew it and sold it to someone here
>in town. I've never seen it since. Where did it go?
>
>--
>John (john@os2.dhs.org)
>Appleton WI USA
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:31:53 -0500
>From: "John T.Pergolizzi" <jtperry1@verizon.net>
>To: <mdschmidt@patmedia.net>,
> "'' Doug Fattic ''" <fatticbicycles@qtm.net>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: RE: [CR] where do old frames go to die? one possible answer
>Message-ID: <001001c6c3ce$855928d0$2f01a8c0@Perry>
>In-Reply-To: <20060819181854.AF0DE91E71@mxo3.broadbandsupport.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
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>
>Mike Schmidt wrote:
>
>" As long as Fontville stays dead, the bike is worth saving. So John,
>buy her a paint job."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Mikei and all,
>
> Here's da deal: The second Ferrari I drove was a 1966 330 GT
>2+2 owned by a very generous doctor. He told me that he used to always
>drive his car. Then he had her repainted and now she was made of
>"crystal"! He hardly ever drove her. Perhaps for fear of a bird
>dropping, a scratch or worse.road dirt!
>
> In Nina's case, she is better served enjoying her bike and
>gaining the knowledge of the bikes special heritage. Will that in fact
>lessen her enjoyment? It might. And that would be too bad.
>
> A paint job would only give her reason to relegate the bike to the
>"Sunday" ride. But I'd buy her a beer.
>
>
>
>
>
>John T.Pergolizzi
>
>Brooklyn, New york
>
>Now cleaned up
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat Aug 19 14:57 , "John T.Pergolizzi" sent:
>
>
>Dear list,
>
>Mike Schmidt wrote:
>
>"The owner's name is Nina. A rather attractive young lady with green
>eyes who is reluctant to give up the bike due to sentimental reasons.;
>She works freelance and had her McLean tied up outside my building for
>several months. Nina and I discussed the bike and I tried to buy it off
>of her to no avail. By sheer coincidence, she rides by John Pergolizzi
>a few months later. Pergo remembers our conversation and John being as
>shy and reserved as he is, calls out to Nina her by her name.& Nina
>stops and wonders how this stranger knew her name. Pergo gets her email
>though and the dialogue continues to rescue this McLean frame from its
>ultimate demise."
>
>What follows is the bulk of my last correspondence with Nina:
>
>"Nina, Do you still have your McClean?"
>"hi john
>yes, i do... it's such a hard thing to give it up. i completely respect
>how
>you want to clean it up, restore it... it's just so hard to let go of
>it. i
>love that bike! but, i still could be open to some kind of arrangement,
>maybe?
>hope all's well with you,
>nina"
>
>I have to disagree with the premise of "ultimate demise". Here
>is an example of someone who REALLY loves her bike. AND rides her.
>Wouldn't it have been a much greater shame if that bike had hung in some
>shop some where or in a box and then been unearthed to be coddled and
>have some "collector" sweat over "build it or not" or even "RIDE her or
>not"?
>I say "RIDE HER INTO THE GROUND!"
>I hope Nina keeps that bike and continues to love to ride her. When all
>is said and done, all we have are memories. And that bike gives Nina
>GREAT memories.
>And us a good story by the graces of the bike gods.
>
>John T.Pergolizzi
>Brooklyn, New york
>Still sweaty after todays 50 miles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:35:02 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>
>To: saint09@bellsouth.net, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR] where do old frames go to die?
>Message-ID: <20060819193502.66594.qmail@web80608.mail.yahoo.com>
>In-Reply-To:
><20060819103301.VYPC11667.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
>
>--- saint09@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> > I've also seen
> > nice vintage frames at our local dump that
> > unfortunately has a policy against picking through
> > the trash.
>
>That's exactly where all of mine go. They go into the
>metal scrap recycling bin.
>
>Why? Because I have no use for them, I cannot GIVE
>them away, and to sell these framesets on eBay is
>simply an exercise in futility. Vintage bicycle shops
>will not take them..........for FREE. These are not
>stolen frames. Most are from bicycles I've had for a
>long time or that I've purchased from local riders,
>and from collectors.
>
>The "no picking through the trash" policy at the dump
>is a total double-standard. Apparently the guys
>working at the Recycling Center are free to dig
>through all of that stuff and take what ever they
>want. There is even sign that says: "No scavenging
>(as per CA law #----)" I believe they even have a
>camera aimed at the bin for surveillance purposes.
>
>So here's what used to happen: I would come cruisin'
>into the recycling center with a car load of vintage
>framesets, wheels, old handlebars, etc, to recycle.
>Next thing I know I'd see two Bozos from the recycling
>center pulling the framesets out and putting them in
>their own cars.
>
>So now I "prepare" the framesets for the recycle bin;
>I whip out the hacksaw and saw each frame up in to
>lots of little pieces. I used a 3-pound sledge on one
>frame and beat it flat as a pancake.
>
>I wonder if anyone has ever made a "wind-chime" with
>the remains of the tubing from a cut-up frame?
>
>My constructive solutions to stop practices such as
>the above would be:
>
>1. All recycling centers should let people scavenge
>for or should I say let people "scavenge to salvage"
>old junk.
>
>2. Local bicycle shops (who deal in vintage bikes)
>should take these old framesets and bring them back to
>life with all of the parts they have sitting around.
>There could even be a "drop area" where you could toss
>your old framesets, handlebars, and wheelsets over a
>fence. (The fence would would have coiled razor wire
>on top of course.)
>
>3. Bring back "Free-Stores." There was one right
>here at Stanford many years ago. It was outdoors.
>You drove up, parked, got out and looked at what was
>sitting on the ground or on these big shelves. You
>could drop off stuff that you didn't need and you were
>free to take whatever you wanted. There were always a
>bunch of old Peugeots and other good stuff there.
>There were no employees--just you and the items.
>
>Ted E. Baer
>Palo Alto, CA
>
>
>
>--- saint09@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> > I frequent our local flea market about every weekend
> > and have purchased several nice bikes there; an 80s
> > Colnago with pantographed Campy NR, a 70s Windsor, a
> > Viner, an early Italvega, and a 70s Cilo also with
> > a Campy group. I don't know if they had been stolen
> > or not, but the prices were unbelievable. It was sad
> > to see how they were treated, most flea market
> > dealers weren't aware of what they had and the bikes
> > were usually just thrown into the back of their
> > pickups with all their other junk on top. Luckily,
> > the frames survived being dented, but they did incur
> > some damage from this mistreatment. Another time, I
> > found an old guy that had a back yard full of
> > vintage components. So much that the neighbors
> > petitioned him to get rid of it. Some were literally
> > buried in the dirt. It would have been the
> > proverbial goldmine except that the nicer stuff
> > suffered from rust and corrosion. I've also seen
> > nice vintage frames at our local dump that
> > unfortunately has a policy against picking through
> > the trash. Alas, to common folk, old bikes aren't as
> > attractive as other vintage stuff. The only
> > exception seems to be old ballon tire bikes like
> > Schwinn Phantoms or Spaceliners that everyone sees
> > as collectible.
> > Fred Durrette
> > Summerville, SC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Classicrendezvous mailing list
> > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >
>http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous
> >
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:35:02 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>
>To: saint09@bellsouth.net, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR] where do old frames go to die?
>Message-ID: <20060819193502.70946.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com>
>In-Reply-To:
><20060819103301.VYPC11667.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>Precedence: list
>Message: 7
>
>
>--- saint09@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> > I've also seen
> > nice vintage frames at our local dump that
> > unfortunately has a policy against picking through
> > the trash.
>
>That's exactly where all of mine go. They go into the
>metal scrap recycling bin.
>
>Why? Because I have no use for them, I cannot GIVE
>them away, and to sell these framesets on eBay is
>simply an exercise in futility. Vintage bicycle shops
>will not take them..........for FREE. These are not
>stolen frames. Most are from bicycles I've had for a
>long time or that I've purchased from local riders,
>and from collectors.
>
>The "no picking through the trash" policy at the dump
>is a total double-standard. Apparently the guys
>working at the Recycling Center are free to dig
>through all of that stuff and take what ever they
>want. There is even sign that says: "No scavenging
>(as per CA law #----)" I believe they even have a
>camera aimed at the bin for surveillance purposes.
>
>So here's what used to happen: I would come cruisin'
>into the recycling center with a car load of vintage
>framesets, wheels, old handlebars, etc, to recycle.
>Next thing I know I'd see two Bozos from the recycling
>center pulling the framesets out and putting them in
>their own cars.
>
>So now I "prepare" the framesets for the recycle bin;
>I whip out the hacksaw and saw each frame up in to
>lots of little pieces. I used a 3-pound sledge on one
>frame and beat it flat as a pancake.
>
>I wonder if anyone has ever made a "wind-chime" with
>the remains of the tubing from a cut-up frame?
>
>My constructive solutions to stop practices such as
>the above would be:
>
>1. All recycling centers should let people scavenge
>for or should I say let people "scavenge to salvage"
>old junk.
>
>2. Local bicycle shops (who deal in vintage bikes)
>should take these old framesets and bring them back to
>life with all of the parts they have sitting around.
>There could even be a "drop area" where you could toss
>your old framesets, handlebars, and wheelsets over a
>fence. (The fence would would have coiled razor wire
>on top of course.)
>
>3. Bring back "Free-Stores." There was one right
>here at Stanford many years ago. It was outdoors.
>You drove up, parked, got out and looked at what was
>sitting on the ground or on these big shelves. You
>could drop off stuff that you didn't need and you were
>free to take whatever you wanted. There were always a
>bunch of old Peugeots and other good stuff there.
>There were no employees--just you and the items.
>
>Ted E. Baer
>Palo Alto, CA
>
>
>
>--- saint09@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> > I frequent our local flea market about every weekend
> > and have purchased several nice bikes there; an 80s
> > Colnago with pantographed Campy NR, a 70s Windsor, a
> > Viner, an early Italvega, and a 70s Cilo also with
> > a Campy group. I don't know if they had been stolen
> > or not, but the prices were unbelievable. It was sad
> > to see how they were treated, most flea market
> > dealers weren't aware of what they had and the bikes
> > were usually just thrown into the back of their
> > pickups with all their other junk on top. Luckily,
> > the frames survived being dented, but they did incur
> > some damage from this mistreatment. Another time, I
> > found an old guy that had a back yard full of
> > vintage components. So much that the neighbors
> > petitioned him to get rid of it. Some were literally
> > buried in the dirt. It would have been the
> > proverbial goldmine except that the nicer stuff
> > suffered from rust and corrosion. I've also seen
> > nice vintage frames at our local dump that
> > unfortunately has a policy against picking through
> > the trash. Alas, to common folk, old bikes aren't as
> > attractive as other vintage stuff. The only
> > exception seems to be old ballon tire bikes like
> > Schwinn Phantoms or Spaceliners that everyone sees
> > as collectible.
> > Fred Durrette
> > Summerville, SC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Classicrendezvous mailing list
> > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >
>http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous
> >
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 7:36:48 +1200
>From: <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]WTB Campagnolo SR RD parts
>Message-ID: <30555765.1156016208559.JavaMail.root@sf1439>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Precedence: list
>Message: 8
>
>Hi all, I am after a top Ti mounting bolt and 2 nuts that go on the pulley
>bolts, can pay by paypal, all receieved emails replied to. Not need to be
>NOS, can trade other SR RD parts if required.....regards wayne davidson
>Invers NZ......
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:37:59 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]double post re: frame death
>Message-ID: <20060819193759.84134.qmail@web80610.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>Precedence: list
>Message: 9
>
>
>Sorry for the double-post. Hit the send key and the
>mail hesitated so I hit it again.
>
>Ted E. Baer
>Palo Alto, CA
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:39:44 -0400
>From: Sheldon Brown <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
>To: Steven Tallides <sjt78@yahoo.com>
>Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR] Seeking help- dating an old Raleigh "Sports" model
> lightweight 10-speed
>Message-ID: <p06230916c10d18e4500a@[10.0.1.10]>
>In-Reply-To: <20060819190204.30887.qmail@web34702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>References: <20060819190204.30887.qmail@web34702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>Message: 10
>
>Steven Tallides wrote:
> >Sheldon,
> >Thanks for your help in identifying this bike's
> >vintage. A friend of mine who works at probably the
> >oldest bike shop in Buffalo, NY (Rick's Cycles) also
> >thought it was imported somehow and never officially
> >sold in the US. He's seen a lot of old Raleighs, but
> >never one like this. I haven't decided what I will do
> >with the bike. There is a good chance I will strip
> >the frame all components and build me up a nice unique
> >fixie with some spare parts I have. This bike is not
> >a museum piece so I might as well ride it, and ride it
> >well. Thanks again.
> >-Steven Tallides
>
>That could be a lot of fun, I've always liked the ride of those old
>Raleighs. However, before you get too heavily involved in upgrades,
>check out this page: http://sheldonbrown.com/
>
>The main issue is the crank/bottom bracket.
>
>Sheldon "Left My Lenton Grand Prix With The Stock Cranks, Even As A
>Fixed Gear" Brown
>+--------------------------------------------------+
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>| things as they are, not as they ought to be. |
>| --Ambrose Bierce |
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>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:43:08 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "Dale B. Phelps" <losgatos_dale@yahoo.com>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]Re: Le Jeune
>Message-ID: <20060819194308.88290.qmail@web30907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>I've seen so many variations of Le Jeune over the years, I don't see how
>its possible to assert that there were only three models. Interestingly, I
>have yet to see one with the engraved seat caps! The ones that intrigue me
>the most are usually red with a light blue head tube, would love to get one
>of dem pups in my size. If I didn't have a smallish one with chrome ends
>hanging in my rafters now, I'd be signing myself off as "Le Jeune-less in
>Longmont"
>
> Dale Phelps
> Longmont CO
>
>
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>
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:45:28 +1000
>From: "Greg S" <gtsoftley@ozemail.com.au>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [CR]Ben K, Bondi and bikes
>Message-ID: <00a301c6c3c8$063ec3d0$2101a8c0@sn2046777123>
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>Hi crew,
>Visited Sydney a day ago to collect a Hetchins Opus II fastback frame
>and decided to check on our beloved Ben K at Bondi - having concerns
>about his ghostly visions of Falerio. Arrived at 11am and found the
>apartment staked out by the Federal vice and drug squad. Creative
>thinking saw me pose as a Mormon door knocker. Donned reading glass,
>Hetchins frame under one arm and the bible (83 Data Book - original
>print edition) under the other. Fooled them. T-shirt with 'Jesus saves -
>Moses lends' probably didn't help - but these guys are pretty dim.
>As I went into the apartment a couple of Scandinavian backpacker girls
>were leaving from what appeared an all night rage. Ben surfaced and
>began raving about Falerio's image on a jersey. Pulled a croissant from
>the fridge and tried to convince me that it looked like the side view of
>Rene Herse and pointed to a bourbon stain on the carpet which looked
>like Mario Confente's chin.
>Ben's apartment , in his mind, is potentially a great place of
>pilgrimage where blessings will be given and tithing can be arranged.
>For those that know him in the States, you might see him around Xmas in
>New York and possibly see an Ozzie contingent at the 07 Cirque....watch
>out!
>Greg Softley
>Coffs Harbour
>Oztralia
>
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>
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 7:47:57 +1200
>From: <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]WTB The dancing chain book
>Message-ID: <8687994.1156016877543.JavaMail.root@sf1439>
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>
>Hi all, does anyone have a copy for sale, not need to be perfect, just
>complete, can pay by paypal, all emails replied to....regrads wayne
>davidson Invercargill NZ........
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>
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:06:10 -0000
>From: "Doug Smith" <doug@Kingsweir.plus.com>
>To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [CR]Replacement Levers
>Message-ID: <010b01c6c3ca$eac07790$722b5c54@HomeUser>
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>
>Bob Hanson wrote:-
>
>3.) You could always change the levers over to more modern style "aero"
>levers, and this will make a noticeable difference in performance.
>
>I am most surprised at the suggestion that changing brake levers and use
>modern equipment should arise on a site that is meant to be for the
>older more vintage bikes . Surely this is not the way forward to
>encourage newcomers ,or anyone come to that , to suggest this sort of
>solution leaves bemused to say the least. Bob is not he only one whose
>has written in this vein , I've noticed it with other writers as well
>and I'm begining wonder whether this listing is about holding up the
>tradition of older bikes and their accessories or not!
>
>I accept that safety is of importance and we should make every effort to
>to uphold that , so when it comes to replacing any worn out parts the
>replacements ought to within the period of that machine. Brake pads and
>chains apart are probably the most consumable items we all use and this
>may be acceptable in replacing with the replica makes of today.
>
>I rest my case!!
>
>Doug Smith
>North Dorset
>UK
>
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