> Hi Toni,
>
> Is it a B17 Swallow? Only the B17 model is listed pre war, and I
> believe
> that it had the slots in the saddle leather.
>
> I forgot to mention before, but have you seen the catalogue collection
> at
> http://www.brooksengland.com/
> drop-down
> menu titled "Homepage", drop down to "Heritage", then click on
> "Yesteryear
> Catalogue Collection", you can download catalogues from the late 1800's
> onwards.
>
> I've copied in the CR list members, since any not aware of this site
> might
> find it useful also.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Neil Foddering
> Weymouth, Dorset, England
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Toni Theilmeier <toni.theilmeier@t-online.de>
>> To: "neil foddering" <neilfoddering@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CR]Brooks saddle dating
>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:50:16 +0200
>>
>> Ah, great, that, Neil - I can use my oval logo, NOS Swallow with
>> loops on
>> the 1939 Saxon then. Thanks.
>>
>> Toni.
>>
Well, my saddle is a Champion Swallow, and a picture can be found on p. 286 on the 1939 Brown Brothers catalogue CD ROM for sale some time ago on CR.
There it says clearly "B 17 Champion Swallow". My saddle has loops instead of the slots shown in the picture, but I think as chances are minute of getting a Swallow, or any top of the range Brooks, that is undoubtedly 1939 without the shadow of a doubt, and NOS to boot, my Swallow (which I brought from the UK some years ago, bought for a pittance in a closing down shop) will end up on the Saxon this weekend. The bike is already much transformed when compared to its picture on wooly, and looks really super. There will be cider on the occasion of the un-NOSsing of the Swallow, and anyone willing to join me (my wife and son are on holidays) is most welcome.
Regards, Toni Theilmeier, Belm, Germany.