RE: [CR]Campag Alloy 3-Pin Crank, 1978 ?

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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:42:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: [CR]Campag Alloy 3-Pin Crank, 1978 ?
To: Ken Freeman <freesound@comcast.net>, 'r cielec' <teaat4p@yahoo.com>, 'Classic Rendezvous' <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <000801c7328b$a8977690$6401a8c0@maincomputer>


You are talking about a different Grand Sport crank, then. I don't doubt at all there were cottered steel GS models, but I have seen several examples of a COTTERLESS 3-arm steel GS.

REgards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring. TX

Ken Freeman <freesound@comcast.net> wrote: The old steel 3-pin had cotter pins, and was very similar if not identical to the FB/Magistroni cranks. The FBs often used little aluminum adapters to attach 6-hole chainwheels to the three-hole crank. The one I had was I think Simplex adapters and Simplex or TA chainwheels. These parts go back to 1970, so the recollection is dimming. But the same setup might work on a GS alloy three-pin.

Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Jerome & Elizabeth Moos Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:33 AM To: r cielec; Classic Rendezvous Subject: Re: [CR]Campag Alloy 3-Pin Crank, 1978 ?

As has already been mentioned, this was OE on the Raleigh Competition GS (GS designating Grand Sport). This was one of the several incarnations of the "Grand Sport" crank Included a cotterless steel 3-arm with (I think) alloy rings, the alloy 3-arm you mention here, a 5-arm 144 BCD which looks like a less highly finished Nouvo Record, and a 5-arm alloy 116 BCD, whose rings were interchangeable with Victory and Triomphe.

The 3-arm versions are 116 BCD, which was something of a standard for 3-arm cranks. So finding cmapatible rings may not be as difficult as you think, since 3-arm cranks with this circle were also made by TA, Nervar and Stronglight among others. One complication, however, is that most of these cranks, including the Campy I think, used chainring bolts of a different diameter from 5-arm cranks. Anyone know a source for these chainring bolts?

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

r cielec wrote: Ahoy !

I have that crank from a dumpster dive Trek of Ishiwata tubing. I have never seen a Campag 3-pin before and know nothing about them other than finding replacement rings - hahahaha. Is this a 3-pin Gran Sport ? Anyway...

Looks like a very crude piece o' work for a Campagnolo component.

Were these O.E.M. on any bikes ?

Some general comments, please, just so I have a frame of reference for this artifact.

Thank you.

Regards,

Richard Cielec Chicago, Illinois; U.S.A.

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