Re: [CR]RH Rene Herse Crank Arm on Ebay 15 min to close

(Example: Framebuilders:Alex Singer)

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 06:43:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]RH Rene Herse Crank Arm on Ebay 15 min to close
To: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>, Michael Schmidt <mdschmidt@patmedia.net>, classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <371070.46566.qm@web60414.mail.yahoo.com>


Well, Second Chance scams have gotten out of hand. After bidding on Matt Gorski's Fred James frame a few days ago, I received at least a half dozen scam Second Chance offers, a new record for me.

But I doubt eBay would ever do anything to actually protect buyers - not their style. The explanation about preventing members dealing directly and depriving eBay of their cut seems a lot more likely.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com> wrote: Mike,

This appears to be a new policy that eBay is implementing on selected auctions, supposedly to protect non-winning bidders from scam second-chance offers. I saw this Bidder1, Bidder2, etc, treatment for the first time on a UK auction well over a month ago, and I've seen a couple more since then, but this is the first time I recall seeing it in a US auction. I wonder how eBay decides which auctions to apply this policy to, and more importantly, whether eBay intends to eventually make this standard in all auctions. It certainly would not surprise me, as apart from protecting members from scams offers, it would also protect eBay from losing business/money to legitimate offers and resulting transactions between members, that exclude eBay (as for example, when a seller offers an identical or similar item directly to non-winning bidders - something which none of us would ever do, because that would be wrong).

If we start seeing more and more of these anonymous bid history lists, I guess we'll know.

Ray Dobbins Miami, FL USA

Michael Schmidt wrote: Item 170067458029

Crank arm is in fair shape. Right side only. But what is really interesting is to see what ebay is doing on the bidder identity.

Bidders are identified by number and not ebay name. No other auction is doing this though.

Mike Schmidt
Stirling, NJ
USA