Re: [CR]'80 or '81 Francesco Moser road bike

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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:42:54 -0800
From: "Morgan Fletcher" <morgan@hahaha.org>
To: bikes@msu.edu
Subject: Re: [CR]'80 or '81 Francesco Moser road bike
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Tim Potter wrote:
> Thought some of you might enjoy seeing a "new" road bike I acquired last
> weekend: http://www.potterspix.com/biking/moser/
>
> The original owner, Carlos Gonzales, was a racer in the 80's with the
> Detroit area Wolverine Club during Frankie Andreu's days with the club.
> Their parents supposedly bought them the exact same frameset in the same
> color/ same size and they apparently were often mistaken for the other.
>
> I've also got the original Cinelli bar/ stem, Campy pedals & brake levers.
>
> A friend of mine said that it's possibly made by De Rosa. Looking at other
> De Rosa's from that period there are quite a few similarities. Would anyone
> happen to know if this frame was indeed made by De Rosa?
>
> Unfortunately the frame tubing decal is about completely gone, but there are
> enough remnants to see that it's Columbus; anyone know what type of tubing
> would have been used on these frames? Also, for the life of me I can find
> no serial number on the frame; perhaps it was on the Cinelli BB shell where
> they cut out the FM? Anyone know where else to look for a SN?

I've also got a 1981 Moser, mine was a team bike of Famcucine rider Gregor Braun:

http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/morgan/morganbikes/Moser/

Mine is SL, if I remember correctly. It's got a 60cm c-c seat tube. You can see the tubing decal here:

http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/morgan/morganbikes/Moser/img_7420.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

Note the crazy pantographing on the crank, too!

Here's something I wrote, when I first got it:

http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10407.0317.eml

The one I have has diamond-shaped chain stays. I've separately heard that either De Rosa or Benotto (Italy) may have built the earliest Mosers. Francesco Moser was captain of the Famcucine team in 1981, and I think the Moser bicycle company was founded in 1980 or 1981, so it would make sense that he might not have had his own fabrication facility yet. When I got mine, it was missing the saddle and had mismatched low-end wheels, (with the name of previous owner #2 on them) and Look pedals. The Unicanitor was a guess. I replaced the ratty cables and housing. I believe all else to be original. If I can figure out what kind of saddle Braun used, I'll put one on this bike. I got it from someone who got it from someone who got it from him. All three previous owners were in Germany. I am hoping to get a letter from Herr Braun, explaining it's his bike. Mine just has a "2" on the BB.

I just picked up a used Famcucine jersey on ebay that fits me. I'll try to bring the bike and jersey on the next Bay Area retro ride. If any of you want a size 2 Famcucine wool jersey, let me know.

Thanks again to Aldo Ross for the scans of Francesco Moser and Gregor Braun. The signed postcard is one I picked up on ebay. It matches the bike I've got, down to the white dot of paint inside the fork crown cutout, which seems to be the same paint used for the "BRAUN" on the top tube.

Morgan Fletcher
Oakland, CA