I know that the steel road bars were available either with or without the engraving by the stem - a glance at old ads or perhaps the Cinelli catalog I believe will confirm that. The track bars I'm not so sure about, but based on the number I've seen without engraving I suspect they were available outside the Schwinn channel as well. I suspect, though, that Schwinn specifically ordered them without engraving and that was what was being refered to. But if they only were available to Schwinn that would be interesting.
Mike Kone in Boulder CO
>
\r?\n> Mike,
\r?\n>
\r?\n> I heard a long time ago that the Cinelli steel track bars without the
\r?\n> logo on them were made for Schwinn to use on the Paramount treck
\r?\n> bikes. Anyone else ever hear that. I believe it was Dave Staub that
\r?\n> told me that; and he would have known for sure.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Brian Baylis
\r?\n> La Mesa, CA
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> -- hersefan@comcast.net wrote:
\r?\n> Yes,
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Many Cinelli bars did not have typical engraving near the stem and
\r?\n> where just plain. But - all steel Cinelli bars I belive have a model
\r?\n> number by the bar end from what I recall. Not typical numbers - look
\r?\n> for something like a 14 or a 16 if my brain is working today.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Mike Kone in Boulder CO
\r?\n>
\r?\n> -------------- Original message --------------
\r?\n> From: gene
\r?\n>
\r?\n> > Hi all
\r?\n> > The CR archives helped answer one of my questions, but not the
\r?\n> other. I
\r?\n> > was wondering about the stem and bars on the Paramount track bike
\r?\n> that I
\r?\n> > recently acquired and posted a picture of on here yesterday. The
\r?\n> original
\r?\n> > owner who sold it to me was certain that the stem and bars were
\r?\n> Cinelli.
\r?\n> > The stem certainly looks like an old chromed Cinelli track stem, but
\r?\n> has no
\r?\n> > badge or stamp, so initially I thought he must have been mistaken.
\r?\n> But
\r?\n> > looking through the archives on here, I found out that indeed there
\r?\n> were
\r?\n> > unstamped Cinelli stems made specifically for Paramounts (not sure
\r?\n> why,
\r?\n> > though). However, the chromed track bars don't have any logos like
\r?\n> you'd
\r?\n> > normally see on Cinelli bars. I haven't been able to find anything
\r?\n> about
\r?\n> > this in the archives. So, does anyone know, were there unstamped
\r?\n> Cinelli
\r?\n> > track bars?
\r?\n> > Thanks!
\r?\n> > Gene Balk
\r?\n> > Seattle, WA