Alex at Atryer. on Ebay from Derby UK close to my old town BRUM in England, has a Viking frame 21 1/4" #170084741307 for buy it now $196,39 plus shipping, probly at least $150.00 looks like was built for ceneterpull brakes, has a dohickey on a plate welded to the head tube above the badge for the cable to pass thru. looks real rough condition, but could have Nervex or somesuch lugs, maybe Vic Davies could give us some info as to the year and type etc. def a restoration project, that about $500.00 at least, but worth a look, quite a change from all the Italian stuff on the list these days, Also saw a Alex Singer frame for sale on Ebay, Cheers John Crump OldSnowedinAGAINBrit, Blizzard Colorado USA <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.