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Thanks for the very nice intro Trevor..
So, the rules e-mail came a bit late eh? Thanks for that heads up.. I need to fix that for future joiners...
BTW, your pink Jonny bike is really nice! Congrats!
Thanks Dale Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA 336.274.5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com -----Original Message----- From: hoontong@yahoo.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Disappearing traditional bikes
Hello All
First off I would like to appologise for my miss use of the list in my previous post, I recieved the "rules e-mail" after posting, and thanks to all those who responded off list
So now for a propper intro, I am Trevor Segraves. Got into cycling as a mountain biker. Fell in love with lugged steel after reading a review comparing a Rivendell to Cannondale back in 99. I currently ride the previously mentioned Kellogg, another unnamed lugged track bike which I share with my 13 year old son, he's 6 foot tall. as well as two custom Jonny Cycles (Cyclofiends cc #274 and #116) as well as a few frames hanging in the rafters and a couple old steel mountain bikes.
As for the demise of the traditional bike, Id have to disagree completely. My current Jonny was built with traditional diameter tubes, all metal parts, and aside from the cranks everything is current, mostly Campy. Shifting, braking, riding, silently and flawlessly, and cheaper than there plastic counter parts.
The difference I see between those of us who cherrish "CR" style bikes (I find the term traditional a bit missleading, modern bikes are still peddalled have 2 wheels and for the most part are still powered manually) and my buddies who desire the highzoot plastic what-ever, is that the bikes I buy, I buy to keep, will likely pass many of them down to my kids, and for the most they will accumulate in my garage. I will ride them all, and if I do decide to sell them, they most likely will hold or even increase in value. As opposed to my buddies who will purchase racer X Carbo Bike, race it for one year, sell it for half price in order to finance next seasons bike, which will most likely cost twice as much as the previous. But than he's searching for an edge, be it real or psychological, riding a lugged steel bike would put him at a disadvantage. Were as me, Im simply out to ride, Maybe searching for a few complements, especially when Im riding a big lugged pink bike on the local montain trails.
Im rambling a bit off topic now, however for those of who have a true love for the "CR" style of bike I dont see any shortage or demise in the forseable future, and anyways if everyone was riding classically built beautiful lugged bikes, with components chosen for there aesthetics, I wouldnt feel nearly as speacial, and chances are this group probably wouldnt be nearly as tight nit or passionate.
Trevor Segraves Lake Forest, Ca
Al Fack <bicycles@charter.net> wrote: First, for introduction, I'm new to the list, and truly humbled while reading the e-mails posted by so many very knowledgable classic enthusiasts. I've avidly ridden and built up bikes all my life, since the 50's, and I know so little about the European classics, but want to learn. The steel, lugged bikes I enjoy, ride, and collect in recent years are the early Treks, among others, like Raleigh, Fuji, Austro Daimler. I see a never ending stream of lugged steel bikes, and in my lifetime I don't forsee any shortage of these. There are so many enthusiasts that carefully use classic components that I don't see that stream ending either. I personally have enough complete bikes to supply 15- 20 riders and plenty of spare bits and framesets to boot. Just think how many collectors like myself have as many or more in the stable than I do. Of course, all bikes ought to be ridden, including the most beautiful, valuable rare ones. And there are many folks still getting into frame building lugged steel, and many of these are a lot younger than me, which further insures that bikes we love will continue to be around long into the future. HUH??? indeed.
> Disappearing traditional bikes???
> HUH???
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> Does it sound funny to you too??? Traditional bikes seem to be HUGE on
> the internet!!!
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> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA
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