Re: [CR]Who made the BEST campy copies ?

(Example: Framebuilders)

To: thomasthomasa@yahoo.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Who made the BEST campy copies ?
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:54:21 -0400
In-Reply-To: <162198.60200.qm@web35609.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
From: <oroboyz@aol.com>


Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote:

<< Call me elitist (i don't mind in the least) but I've never understood

why anyone would want to buy a copy of Campagnolo instead of the original? Was it just about price?
>>

All I can say is "Blonds, Brunettes amd Redheads"... Why not enjoy and appreciate them all?

Dale

Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote: Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: thomasthomasa@yahoo.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Who made the BEST campy copies ?

Dear Chuck:

When I got started (mid 70's) it was often hard to get Campy, whereas my local shop guys usually had a few sets of Ofmega, Galli or Gipiemme around. My first bespoke bike had a Campy SR reduced group, but the shop ordered a 27.2 post and G. Marinonni used a SP seat tube taking a 27.0 pin. Had to wait a couple of months to get the replacement. So if it's a choice between paying more and waiting, or taking the "almost as good" stuff, I recall a fair number of folks saying "gimme the generic and let me get on the road now".

Of course there were a few makers who claimed to have a better mousetrap, like OMAS with their sealed, light weight hubs and BB's, but usually the motive to using "generic" parts was price and availability.

Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ

Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote: Call me elitist (i don't mind in the least) but I've never understood why anyone would want to buy a copy of Campagnolo instead of the original? Was it just about price?

Anyone?

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, CA

On Apr 24, 2007, at 3:05 PM, Donald Gillies wrote:
> I have to give my vote for SR as making the BEST campy copies.
> Generally, SR Royal stuff was a direct copy of Nuovo record (or
> Cinelli 1-A) stuff. But then, there was SR Royal SL (super light)
> stuff, which was very close to Campagnolo Super Record. And then
> there was SR Royal ESL (Extra Super Light), which often had NO
> equivalent in the campagnolo line.
>
> For example,
>
> SR Royal Stem == Cinelli 1-A, closest copy available. (SR) in tiny
> circle.
> SR Royal SL Stem == Cinelli 1-A with fluting down both sides
> SR Royal ESL Stem == Cinelli 1-A, fluting down both sides, drilled out
> hollow center, slotted head, all hardware was titanium,
> 220 grams!
>
> SR Royal Seatpost == nuovo record
> SR Royal SL Seatpost == like super record, but flutes were wider
> SR Royal ESL Seatpost == wild & crazy flutes, head of post MAJORLY
> relieved.
>
> SR Royal Crank = Nuovo record, one of the closest copies available
> SR Royal SL Crank = Relieved spider, very drilled
> SR Royal ESL Crank = Super record, all titanium hardware == BB + 7
> bolts.
>
> SP-100BL == superleggera road pedals, made by KKT.
> SP-100L == (aluminum) silver road pedals
> SP-150BL == superleggera track pedals
> SP-150L == (aluminum) silver track pedals
>
> World Custom (SL) Bars = has the SR Royal Eagle on them.
> World Champion (ESL) Bars = the coolest bars on the planet, with
> drillium on the 26.0 sleeves, and very light.
> World Randonneur (SL) Bars = randonneur version of SR Royal with
> eagle.
>
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA
> _______________________________________________

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