Re: [CR]Bondo Cinelli and Modolo speed limiters

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From: "johnthepainter" <jmu01288@bigpond.net.au>
To: "Greg S" <gtsoftley@ozemail.com.au>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Bondo Cinelli and Modolo speed limiters
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 15:44:07 +1000
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No, Greg That #007 laser was none other than James "Bondo" Bond & the filler was stirred not shaken. Sorry i couldn`t help that one! John Murray PD [Painter & Decorator]
Queensland
Australia


----- Original Message -----
From: Greg S
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Bondo Cinelli and Modolo speed limiters



> Hello George,
> I applied a magnet to the area around the head tube/TT and DT area where
> you might normally find lugs and also around the bracing within that
> area and the magnet did not stick. My frame is an 85 Laser Crono Strada
> and has never been ridden and kept under wraps from the time it was
> taken off the show stand. It shows no signs of Bondo cracking. Obviously
> there has been no stress as you might find with a ridden frame and also
> little variation in temperature where it has been stored.
> The amount of 'fairing' that my frame has is reasonably minimal compared
> to others that I have seen and I would like to be under the delusion
> that the Italian master craftsmen managed to somehow via alchemy of
> metals and workmanship manage to create such fluid shapes, but the
> absence of magnetic attraction at exactly the points where I might
> suspect and predict that a filler might be used, convinces me that the
> construction process included some form of plastic filler - I cant
> imagine them using lead.
> Until there is proof that Cinelli craftsmen managed to hand beat/fold
> and seamlessly braze and file these frames without use of filler, and
> also manage to insulate certain areas of metal from magnetic attraction,
> I will stick by the Bondo theory.
> As I said, my Laser has never turned a crank - so I am reluctant to go
> digging into the pristine paint to bring some Bondo to surface. A
> similar frame that I did have restored, a 93 Colnago Rominger TT team
> issue (same as the hour record frame) which has similar fairings and
> bracings was brought back to bare metal and what was found underneath
> was an assortment of tubing off-cuts from the Colnago factory where the
> bracing is between the head tube and the TT and DT that was cobbled
> together via brazing, and then was built up with Bondo to give it the
> same smooth lines as the Laser. Some of these bits of metal within the
> bracing still had Colnago stampings on them.
> Regardless George, you are a lucky guy to have the stewardship of #007.
> (This wasn't James Bond's bike by any chance?)
> Greg Softley
> Coffs Harbour
> Australia
>
>
> Dear Mr. Softley:
> I have carefully applied a magnet to my Laser-no bondo found.
> Please provide a photo of a Laser showing the use of bondo.
> Anecdotes are amusing but not convincing.
> George Hollenberg MD
> CT, USA
>
>
> > Hi Crew,
> > Once again some great entertainment! I'm chiming into this as I
> > have
> > Modolo Kronos on my CX and have a Laser circa 85. Firstly Mr
> > George MD,
> > fortunately you are a doctor as there will come a moment when
> > you need
> > the Kronos to work and they will crack inside.....happened to me
> > on an
> > emergency stop and I still bear the scars. Your professional
> > skills can
> > be used for self administration of emergency care.
> > I do admire your taste in classics though, the CX, Kronos and
> > Laser are
> > all examples of modern art in my opinion but please for the sake
> > of the
> > future health of the CR subscribers, don't recommend the Kronos
> > brakes -
> > only to people you need to seek revenge upon!
> > Did the 'magnet' test on the Laser and yes....bondo where the
> > tubes are
> > faired together. Thinking about it, realistically, how could
> > anyone
> > imagine that those tubes can be flowed together so seamlessly
> > without
> > the help of bondo? A metal pressing could achieve two halves,
> > but there
> > would still be a seam. There were a lot of different styles of
> > Lasers
> > made so I imagine there would be as many different quantities of
> > Bondo
> > used.
> > So, get out your magnets and lets stop the self deception.
> > Greg Softley DD (Decal Designer)
> > Coffs Harbour
> > Australia
> >