Re: [CR]ID of Campagnolo SR & C Record BB cups

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 17:34:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tom Dalton" <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]ID of Campagnolo SR & C Record BB cups
To: Norm and Val Lafleur <nvlafleur@verizon.net>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <006c01c791b7$1e073520$2f01a8c0@LAFLEUR>


Norm and Val Lafleur <nvlafleur@verizon.net> wrote:

The 3/16" Cups are marked 1.370" X 24 TPI MADE IN ITALY CAMPAGNOLO. The 7/32" cups are marked 1".370 X 24 t.p.i. BREV. INTER. CAMPAGNOLO.... The wild card in all of this is that I received these as a box of parts and sorted the spindles, cups and bearings until I found the combination that "felt right".

Norm,

This is opposite to the markings on my sets. My 3/16" sets have various markings that read "Brev inter Campagnolo" and the 7/32" have markings that read "Made in Italy" If you matched spindles with cups by feel, did this include assembling the BBs to a bike to check that the lockring ends up roughly flush with the adjustable cup? If my suspicions are correct, you are matching things incorrectly and your overall widths, when assembled, will be incorrect.

Norm also asked:

As far as the SR cups go, were the aluminum cups used exclusively with the titanium spindles?

I think you're aware that the aluminum cups were also used with the steel-spindled C-rec BB's, so I assume you're asking if there was an NR/SR era BB that used a steel spindle and the alloy SR cups. The answer to that is no. There was never a steel spindle designed for use with 3/16" balls that was spaced for the Record crank and the thick-walled cups. One much older Record BB did use 3/16" balls and the spindle was appropriate for pre-CPSC cranks, but the cups were thin-wall and the ball tracks therefore spaced wider.

It appears to me that the SR "reduced" group used the NR BB.

Correct, and SL pedals.

Tom Dalton
    Bethlehem, PA, USA
    Hi All, let me share my info and try to bring this back to the on topic SR/NR era. I have both 3/16" and 7/32" C Record BB's. The 3/16" Cups are marked 1.370" X 24 TPI MADE IN ITALY CAMPAGNOLO. The 7/32" cups are marked 1".370 X 24 t.p.i. BREV. INTER. CAMPAGNOLO. Interestingly the 7/32" marking is the same as my NR BB with 1/4" bearings. Norm Lafleur Ashfield, Ma.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Dalton"
To:
Cc: "Classic Rendezvous"
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: [CR]ID of Campagnolo SR & C Record BB cups



> Hi all, after going thru my collection of parts, and inc some just
> recieved cups, an easy way I can tell is that SR have "Brev. Inter"
> markings and C Record have "MADE IN ITALY". I am sure there are other
> markings that have been posted, but as far as the ones that I can eyeball
> myself I have made my comments. Many thanx for all the inputs........
>
> regards wayne davidson
> invers NZ........
>
> Wayne,
> While you may have made your comments, they provide little collaborative
> contribution in the context of the information that I was able to provide
> to you. It was you who initially posted the question, so I'd really like
> to hear from you how your later findings mesh with the info I gave you. I
> suspect that the small differnces in markings on my SR and early C-Record
> cups are not definitive indictors of which group the cups belong to, but
> rather just running changes in manufacture that do not correlate to the
> change in use of the 3/16" cup from SR to C-Rec. So, exactly how are your
> Brev. Inter (SR) cups marked? I'd like to know if they are the same as my
> SR cups, or perhaps the same as my early C-Rec cups. More importantly,
> did you note whether all the C-record cups were the 7/32" type? I'd like
> to know if any of the 3/16" cups got the 'Made in Italy" marking. If only
> the 7/32" type were marked this way, we might have any easy way to
> identify this important
> difference (an actual, mechanical difference). Without a 3/16" and 7/32"
> cup to hold side by side, it is hard to tell them apart, so it would be
> helpful if we could begin to confirm that the "Made in Italy" can be used
> to identify the 7/32" type.
>
> Tom Dalton
> Bethlehem, PA, USA
>
>
>
>
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