RE: [CR]Frame Geometry and stay length...The angels are dancing onthe head of a pin once more...

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Subject: RE: [CR]Frame Geometry and stay length...The angels are dancing onthe head of a pin once more...
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 00:29:19 -0700
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Thread-Topic: [CR]Frame Geometry and stay length...The angels are dancing onthe head of a pin once more...
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From: "Mark Bulgier" <Mark@bulgier.net>
To: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


Chuck Schmidt wrote:
> Being able to feel the difference or not feel
> the difference in ride or handling doesn't
> mean there isn't a difference in ride or handling

Yes, good to remember. The example I always use is, what if one bike was a little more comfortable, defined as you are fresher and less beat-up at the end of a long ride. And lets imagine we can assign a numerical score to this and you are exactly 10% fresher at the end of a 100 miler. I claim that it's very unlikely you'd be able to feel such a small difference in the ride quality at any point in the ride. I also doubt you'd be able to attribute feeling fresher to the bike -- you might think it was tailwinds or eating and drinking right or any of a hundred variables. But you still got the benefit of the extra comfort whether you knew it or not.

The same logic can be applied to cornering, durability, efficiency, aero drag - just about any criterion we judge bikes by. (I suppose even aesthetic appeal and historical importance, though the argument gets a bit more fuzzy there...) Just because you couldn't detect the difference doesn't mean it wasn't there.

Then again, Chuck may have been saying something else entirely -- but that's what I think.

Mark Bulgier
Seattle WA USA