Re: [CR]Colnago ID and water bottle mounts

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To: WBINGHAM@imf.org, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Colnago ID and water bottle mounts
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:29:24 -0400
In-Reply-To: <431E778FEFC2314EB278EF695B285B7E02F89759@MLS3WN01P.WAS.INT.IMF.ORG>
From: <oroboyz@aol.com>


One of the main anomalies of mine is that it has water bottle bosses on the seat tube, something I thought was uncommon for an '80 Super. ............. what's commonly referred to as the "transition" years (mid 70's-early 80's) for Colnago.

Wayne & all:

This may not be much help but I actively sold quite a few Colnagos through that era and I recall that the european market bikes had only one water bottle mount while the USA? intended models started having two.? "Why do these crazy Americans need two water bottles?"...

Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA 336.274.5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com

-----Original Message----- From: Bingham, Wayne <WBINGHAM@imf.org> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:07 am Subject: RE: [CR]Colnago Identification and Opnions Requested

I tend to agree with Chuck and Matt, but the primary reason that I'm commenting is because I was having a similar conversation recently with Brian B about determining the date for a Colnago Super I have. I had speculated mine to be in the '79-'81 range, and thinking most likely '80. I'm not a Colnago authority by any means (I only own this one at the moment, and have only owned a couple others) but my experience is that there are a lot of inconsistencies that make it difficult to precisely pin down the "exact" year, although getting close is fairly simple. The Super I own now is very similar to Scott's, having the engraved seat stay caps and non-engraved chainstays. It has top-routed cable guides at the BB. I can't look at it at the moment, and I can't remember the CS bridge detail, but I think it's also like Scott's. Same fork and chrome crown, but mine does have the clover cut-out in the BB shell. One of the main anomalies of mine is that it has water bottle bosses on the seat tube, something I thought was uncommon for an '80 Super. Mine also has a paint scheme that I have not seen before, one of the things that drew me to the frame. It is dark metallic green with a silver head tube and silver seat tube panel which is bordered with world-colors strips, although the other decals are the same. My experience is that there is a lot of gray area in what's commonly referred to as the "transition" years (mid 70's-early 80's) for Colnago.

Chuck - Do your two '80 supers have bottle bosses on the seat tube and the clover cut-out in the BB shell?

Wayne Bingham Lovettsville VA USA


>>>>>> Here's my opinion Scott, I would agree with Matty... 1980. I have two 1980 Colnago Supers, one is identical to yours and the other, the only difference is that instead of a tube chainstay bridge, it has a spool-shaped chainstay bridge (large grove around center). Both have "COLNAGO" seat stay caps and both do not have "COLNAGO" engraved chainstays. I'd put the "COLNAGO" engraved chainstays at 1981 but that would just be my uneducated guess.

Chuck 'only 3 Colnagos, 2 to be 4 sale' Schmidt South Pasadena, CA USA

On May 23, 2007, at 7:47 PM, <bikenut@verizon.net> wrote:
> Scott,
> I would say more like 1980.... I have a few late 70's bikes
> 1978/1979 and they didn't yet have the engraved seat stay caps. The
> next sep of evolution was the engraved chainstays in 1980/81.
>
> Matt 'Has 11 Colnagos' Gorski
> Belmont Shore, CA USA
>
>
>> I recently acquired a Colnago from a neighbor, and I am trying to
>> properly identify the bicycle to determine what I have in my hands.
>> As best that I can determine, this is a 1978 or 79 frame with 1972
>> Campy components. I have posted to a few other locations and
>> inquired with several cycling friends, who have suggested that I post
>> to this list.
>> Any help or insights you can offer would be great. A link to the
>> bicycle and photographs.
>>
>> http://www.demel.net/bicycle/colnago/
>>
>> thanks in advance
>> scott demel