[CR]Bikes as baggage

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

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From: "Alfredo Marcantonio" <alfredo.marcantonio@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:04 +0100
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Bikes as baggage

I am sure many of us are aware that you can take a bike on most scheduled aircraft as 'sports equipment'. And why not ? A Cinelli is a lot lighter than a set of golf clubs. Some of the new budget airlines charge £20 for the privilege. However a bike frame neatly packed can usually slip through as a piece of luggage. Hope helpful...

Alfredo Marcantonio Twickenham, England

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> 1. FS: 1961 Campagnolo No Record front hub (Tom Hayes)
> 2. addendum: Fwd: FS: 1961 Campagnolo No Record front hub (Tom
> Hayes)
> 3. re: anodised airlites (Peter Brueggeman)
> 4. Preserving older clinchers (Mark Stonich)
> 5. Kool Gear-History? (Gary Watts)
> 6. Re: EXACTLY when it's OK to REPAINT a frameset ... (Kurt Sperry)
> 7. RE: Bikes/frames from England to USA. (David Toppin)
> 8. RE: Bikes/frames from England to USA. (David Toppin)
> 9. Le Cirque photos (Chris Kulczycki)
> 10. RE: Kool Gear-History? (Mark Bulgier)
> 11. forsale: ebay outing REG cage (Phil Scott)
> 12. RE: Kool Gear-History? (Steven M. Johnson)
> 13. Re: Preserving older clinchers (David Snyder)
> 14. Re: Conundrum SR Brakes ?? 1977 or 1982 ?? (Chuck Schmidt)
> 15. Cool Gear--was Kool Gear :-) (Gary Watts)
> 16. Re: Cool Gear--was Kool Gear :-) (Kurt Sperry)
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:20:32 -0500
> From: "Tom Hayes" <hayesbikes@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]FS: 1961 Campagnolo No Record front hub
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> If anyone is interested, I have a Campagnolo hi-flange No Record 36-
> hole hub
> for sale for $55.00 including the mailing within the USA. It is
> the variety
> with the oiler hole but no record marking. The locknut is marked
> 1961. It
> comes with flat-handled skewers but not the open "C" variety. The
> skewer
> handle shows some rust on the knobbie parts. The hub appears to
> have been
> laced only once. If anyone is interested, I can send a picture of it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Tom Hayes
> Chagrin Falls, Ohio USA, but wishing I was in Greensboro
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:28:25 -0500
> From: "Tom Hayes" <hayesbikes@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]addendum: Fwd: FS: 1961 Campagnolo No Record front hub
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> That's a front hub, sorry leaving that out.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tom Hayes <hayesbikes@gmail.com>
> Date: Jun 9, 2007 2:20 PM
> Subject: FS: 1961 Campagnolo No Record front hub
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
> If anyone is interested, I have a Campagnolo hi-flange No Record 36-
> hole hub
> for sale for $55.00 including the mailing within the USA. It is
> the variety
> with the oiler hole but no record marking. The locknut is marked
> 1961. It
> comes with flat-handled skewers but not the open "C" variety. The
> skewer
> handle shows some rust on the knobbie parts. The hub appears to
> have been
> laced only once. If anyone is interested, I can send a picture of it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Tom Hayes
> Chagrin Falls, Ohio USA, but wishing I was in Greensboro
>
>
> --
> Tom Hayes
> Chagrin Falls, Ohio
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 13:30:27 -0700
> From: "Peter Brueggeman" <pbrueggeman@ucsd.edu>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]re: anodised airlites
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> Regarding John Hudson's query ".... approximately when the anodised
> versions
> were introduced?..."
>
> Holdsworth's Aids to Happy Cycling catalogue lists coloured flanges
> for
> British Hub Airlite Continentals as extra in 1957, and doesn't list
> this hub
> option in 1955 and 1952. Appearance in a catalogue isn't the same
> as an
> introduction date, of course.
>
> Peter
> ......................................
> Peter Brueggeman
> La Jolla California USA
> pbrueggeman(AT)ucsd.edu
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:38:11 -0500
> From: Mark Stonich <mark@bikesmithdesign.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Preserving older clinchers
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> Anyone have any tips for preserving older clinchers? Armorall?
>
> I've stored tires in black plastic bags with good result. But now I
> have a set of 10 year old Continentals (brown sidewalls) I love, but
> they're on a bike that doesn't get many miles. I'd hate to see them
> deteriorate before I can wear them out, and they're on the only
> bike they fit.
>
> Mark Stonich;
> BikeSmith Design & Fabrication
> 5349 Elliot Ave S. - Minneapolis. MN 55417
> Ph. (612) 824-2372 http://bikesmithdesign.com
> http://mnhpva.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:08:44 -0700
> From: "Gary Watts" <watts.gary@gmail.com>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Kool Gear-History?
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> I'm sure many of us remember the Kool Gear items in the 1970's. I
> had a
> jersey I like (yellow with red center band) and also use their seat
> for a
> while. Novel concepts but they appear to be long gone. Searches
> on the
> search engines didn't turn up anything. Anyone know the history
> and who was
> involved, and when they dissappeared?
>
> Gary Watts
> Vancouver, WA
> USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:17:14 -0700
> From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
> Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]EXACTLY when it's OK to REPAINT a frameset ...
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>> If you carefully trim the bottom off the transfers to remove the
>> respray
>>> part, they look OK.
>>
>> But why bother? There always seems to be an abundance of Reynolds 531
>> tubing decals available (both original and reproductions) on eBay.
>>
>> --
>> John Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
>
>
>
> The last time I did that, Ebay didn't exist! ;)
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham WA USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 17:50:45 -0400
> From: "David Toppin" <dave@pelletizer.com>
> To: "'Waldo Magnuson'" <magnuson@mac.com>
> Cc: 'Classic Rendevous' <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [CR]Bikes/frames from England to USA.
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> Yes it is and is probably the best way to transport a bike . I
> have seen it
> done in the past month.
>
>
> David Toppin
> dave@pelletizer.com
> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable inventory.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Waldo
> Magnuson
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 1:53 PM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Cc: Waldo Magnuson
> Subject: [CR]Bikes/frames from England to USA.
>
> I've been wondering if a friend flying from London to the U.S.
> could check a
> bicycle through as carry-on. Some of the new bike boxes are as
> small as a
> garment bag. Is such a method do-able?
> Skip Magnuson
> Spokane, WA
> USA
>
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 17:51:51 -0400
> From: "David Toppin" <dave@pelletizer.com>
> To: "'Mitch Harris'" <mitch.harris@gmail.com>
> Cc: 'Classic Rendevous' <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [CR]Bikes/frames from England to USA.
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> Let me clarify my last response. I think Mitch is right. It can be
> checked. I'd doubt if they'd let you carry it on
>
>
> David Toppin
> dave@pelletizer.com
> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable inventory.
>
>
> The Pelletizer Group, Inc.
> 4 LaChance Street
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>
> (978) 669-0060
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Mitch
> Harris
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 2:00 PM
> To: Waldo Magnuson
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Bikes/frames from England to USA.
>
> Don't think you could get away with it as a check on-- security at
> Gatwick
> and Heathrow is very keen about carry ons (although you can carry a
> gross of
> bottles from duty free without a glance).
>
> But have your friend pack the bike in a regular bike box taped up
> and it
> will probably go on board without any charge. I've never been
> charged to
> check a bike flying from Britain to US, and the last time my wife
> and I also
> had extra luggage (we'd been in Britain for several months) in
> addition to
> the bike boxes. Delta officials in Britain didn't flinch and there
> was no
> question of a charge. They even checked them straight to our final
> destination even though we had a day layover in Atlanta, so I
> thought I'd
> have to pay extra charges to re-check them from Atlanta to SLC.
>
> Mitch Harris
> Little Rock Canyon, Utah
>
>
> On 6/9/07, Waldo Magnuson <magnuson@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've been wondering if a friend flying from London to the U.S. could
>> check a bicycle through as carry-on. Some of the new bike boxes are
>> as small as a garment bag. Is such a method do-able?
>> Skip Magnuson
>> Spokane, WA
>> USA
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 15:19:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Kulczycki <chris@velo-orange.com>
> To: classic rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Le Cirque photos
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> If anyone is interested, I've posted some photos from this
> weekend's Le Cirque du Cyclisme. The bike show is tomorrow and I'll
> post more photos after. But for now there is a selection of neat
> details here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/VeloOrange/LeCirqueDuCiyclisme07
>
> Chris
> http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> Chris Kulczycki
> Velo Orange
> 109 Colonial Avenue
> Annapolis, MD 21401
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 18:14:58 -0700
> From: "Mark Bulgier" <Mark@bulgier.net>
> To: "Gary Watts" <watts.gary@gmail.com>,
> "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [CR]Kool Gear-History?
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> I'm pretty sure it was spelled "Cool Gear!", including the exclamation
> mark. They co-sponsored an amateur team with Exxon that included John
> Howard and both of the Stetinas in the late 70s.
>
> Weren't they the ones that called their seat "The Seat", their
> handlebar
> tape "The Tape" etc? They may have been the ones who inflicted the
> clear-plastic frame pump on us too unless I'm getting them confused
> with
> someone else.
>
> The saddles, with tubular-steel rails (instead of solid like everyone
> else up until the 90s), mostly broke, but I still have one. They also
> had the novel feature that the plastic body of the saddle could
> come off
> the rails very easily (when you least expected it!) but was much
> harder
> to put back on.
>
> Mark Bulgier
> Seattle WA USA
>
> Gary Watts wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure many of us remember the Kool Gear items in the 1970's.
>> I had a jersey I like (yellow with red center band) and also use
>> their seat for a while. Novel concepts but they appear to be
>> long gone. Searches on the search engines didn't turn up
>> anything. Anyone know the history and who was involved, and
>> when they dissappeared?
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 21:23:03 -0400
> From: "Phil Scott" <pdscott@woh.rr.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]forsale: ebay outing REG cage
> Message-ID: <000801c7aafd$e4b34470$6401a8c0@IDODESIGNS>
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> Vintage REG ITALY waterbottle cage handle mount type. 220120589672
> ebay
> pouting
>
>
>
> Phil Scott
>
> Clayton, Ohio (boring stupid Midwest)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:57:03 GMT
> From: "Steven M. Johnson" <grisha2@juno.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: RE: [CR]Kool Gear-History?
> Message-ID: <20070609.205703.4721.2@webmail33.lax.untd.com>
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> 6 views at this URL, but you must have a secret password.
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/broderir/Catalogs-Posters/
>
> In 1997 at the Peanut Ride in VA, I saw a guy with wife and child
> wearing a Cool Gear wool jersey. I asked him if he was on the team,
> and
> he said he was.
>
> Steven Johnson, Shiloh, IL
>
> -- "Mark Bulgier" <Mark@bulgier.net> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it was spelled "Cool Gear!", including the exclamation
> mark. They co-sponsored an amateur team with Exxon that included John
> Howard and both of the Stetinas in the late 70s.
>
> Weren't they the ones that called their seat "The Seat", their
> handlebar
>
> tape "The Tape" etc? They may have been the ones who inflicted the
> clear-plastic frame pump on us too unless I'm getting them confused
> with
>
> someone else.
>
>
> The saddles, with tubular-steel rails (instead of solid like everyone
> else up until the 90s), mostly broke, but I still have one. They also
> had the novel feature that the plastic body of the saddle could
> come off
>
> the rails very easily (when you least expected it!) but was much
> harder
> to put back on.
>
> Mark Bulgier
> Seattle WA USA
>
> Gary Watts wrote:
>>
>
>> I'm sure many of us remember the Kool Gear items in the 1970's.
>
>> I had a jersey I like (yellow with red center band) and also use
>
>> their seat for a while. Novel concepts but they appear to be
>
>> long gone. Searches on the search engines didn't turn up
>
>> anything. Anyone know the history and who was involved, and
>
>> when they dissappeared?
> _______________________________________________
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 20:21:02 -0800
> From: "David Snyder" <dddd@pacbell.net>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Preserving older clinchers
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> There are several age-related forms of deterioration in tires, but
> as far as
> protecting exposed (i.e. mounted) tires from suffering tread
> cracking and
> sidewall rubber "evaporation", the most important thing is to keep
> the bike
> indoors.
>
> The less exposure to outside air, the longer the tires will remain
> in good
> shape. An indoor closet is almost as good as a plastic bag because
> still
> air in the closet (or any well-sealed room) has had a chance to
> deposit
> nearly all of it's ozone onto fabrics, carpet, etc., keeping the
> concentration of this chemically-active O3 molecule very low, and thus
> protecting your tires. The opposite situation, up on a roof rack
> or in a
> breezy garage, ages tires at an alarming rate with, or without,
> direct
> sunlight.
>
> Another inescapable effect of aging is the weakening of the bond
> between
> plies, resulting in the familiar diagonal bulge-out when the
> overlapping
> plies de-laminate. I don't know if atmospheric ozone is involved in
> this
> breakdown, but there are several different polymers used in a typical
> clincher, which each containing it's own plasticizer (oils added for
> increased pliability). Plasticizers leaching out over time into the
> adjacent materials may affect the properties of each material: tread,
> sidewall rubber, casing and the bonding agent between plies.
>
> Lastly, humidity is known to readily permeate most polymers and
> often has a
> deleterious effect on the material over time.
>
> I face the same problem storing high-quality 27" tires, not knowing
> which
> tire will be the next one for which production ceases. 1-1/8" tires
> measuring 25mm (mounted) are my choice for half the bikes I own.
> Cheng-Shin
> C-732 is a decent, traditional, very low cost alternative retailing
> for
> about $10 and being molded much like a gumwall but without such
> thick rubber
> on the sidewalls. Weight is 290g or so.
>
> David Snyder
> Auburn, CA usa
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Stonich"
> Subject: [CR]Preserving older clinchers
>
>
>> Anyone have any tips for preserving older clinchers? Armorall?
>>
>> I've stored tires in black plastic bags with good result. But now
>> I have
>> a set of 10 year old Continentals (brown sidewalls) I love, but
>> they're on
>> a bike that doesn't get many miles. I'd hate to see them deteriorate
>> before I can wear them out, and they're on the only bike they fit.
>>
>> Mark Stonich;
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:29:24 -0700
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Conundrum SR Brakes ?? 1977 or 1982 ??
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> On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Anthony Bier wrote:
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>> Regarding black shield logo hoods. Earlier this year I bough a bike
>> that had been "refurbished" about 5 years ago. It had nice black
>> shield logo hoods on some rough Nuovo Record levers. I swapped them
>> over to my super record levers... perhaps Campagnolo sold
>> replacement black hoods for some years following the end of the
>> Nuovo/super record production?
>>
>> Anthony Bier
>> Vancouver, BC
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>
> The black Gran Sport hoods with shield logo were available starting
> around '78 or '79 and I immediately took off the gum hoods on my
> Campagnolo brakes and replaced them with the black ones. I figured
> the carbon black in the rubber would help them last longer in the sun
> and I liked the way the black hoods looked on my bikes better than
> the brown.
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA USA
> http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)
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> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:53:43 -0700
> From: "Gary Watts" <watts.gary@gmail.com>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Cool Gear--was Kool Gear :-)
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> First, off thanks to Mark and Robert for the offlist replies of
> information. Second, my mistake on the company name. I had Kool
> Stop in
> mind I think.
>
> As Mark B noted, breakage of the "The Seat" frame was an issue.
> Mine broke
> too. I then bought a Unicanitor #3 and lived with it for many years
> afterwards. I say lived with because it was tolerable but never
> comfortable
> for my "bottom".
>
> I had forgotten about the Cool Gear-Exxon connection. I'm friends
> with one
> of the original framebuilders of the frames, Bruce Hecht. He
> worked at
> Graphtek (spelling) for a year or 2, then started making his own steel
> frames(Plantano) for a while. I met him at Hewlett-Packard in
> Corvallis
> Oregon when we both worked there as engineers. Bruce is not there
> anymore
> but working on community housing projects for a non-profit. Very
> nice guy
> and still riding alot.
>
> Gary Watts
> Vancouver, Washington
> USA
>
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> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:05:55 -0700
> From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Cool Gear--was Kool Gear :-)
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> What's up with the password protected content like the Cool Gear!
> brochure on wooljersey? That seems a little paranoid to say the
> least.
> Someone unauthorised might see the secret Cool Gear! brochure- oh
> nooooo!
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham WA
> USA
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