Re: [CR]Wired-on vs. clincher

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Subject: Re: [CR]Wired-on vs. clincher
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:54:46 -0400
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John,

At the highest levels, most racers still use tubulars. On cyclingnews.com, they recently had a small feature about pros using "what they wanted" instead of what their sponsors made, and it included a pic of tubulars with Michelin logos, although Michelin does not currently offer any tubular tires.

The big modern day advantage of tubulars is that they allow the use of full carbon fiber rims, rather than carbon/metal hybrids that are usually necessary for clinchers. This can shave a half pound or so off a wheelset.

I think a moderate number of amateur racers are still using sewups, but it isn't like it was 20+ years ago when pretty much everybody was doing so.

This applies to the U.S. Given that I still see tubulars in the bicycle section of the equivalent of WalMart in France, I'd think that more people are using them there.

Baird

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> At 09:01 PM 22/07/2007 -0700, ternst wrote:
>> Well, I guess I should put my two cts. worth in.
>> The word clincher is tricky.
>
> Thanks for the details, Ted. I knew there was a difference, but
> it's hard
> to find the history. Kurt Sperry already emailed me privately
> questioning
> my annoyance with the lack of distinction in today's usage, and I
> guess
> he's right because I also call them "clinchers". In fact, other
> than among
> vintage cyclists, tubular tires today are almost unknown. Do most
> racers
> still use them? Today's "clinchers", however, can't even always be
> called
> "wired-on" because of all the different types, many if which don't
> even use
> wire.
>
> John Betmanis
> Woodstock, Ontario
> Canada